Driving to a place of repair once MOT/Tax have expired?
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Yes, you can drive to/from a place of repair (pre-arranged) but only AFTER an MOT failure (and not necessarily directly from the MOT station). You can't drive to a garage, have something repaired and then go to an MOT.
edit: Vehicle still needs to be roadworthy though, so steering/brakes/suspension etc. must not be in a dangerous condition.
edit: Vehicle still needs to be roadworthy though, so steering/brakes/suspension etc. must not be in a dangerous condition.
Edited by Gareth79 on Tuesday 8th June 17:18
So, hypothetically, if I realise that the MOT has expired on a car on Sunday, then on Monday book it in for an MOT that day and go to it - It's legal (ish).
If, in the same circumstance, I just head to any MOT station with the intention of leaving it there for an MOT - It's not legal?
If I intend to drive to work and get the MOT done on the way home - It's not legal*.
* That's a statement, not a question as I'm damned sure that's the case.
This is, of course, hypothetical. Y'honour.
If, in the same circumstance, I just head to any MOT station with the intention of leaving it there for an MOT - It's not legal?
If I intend to drive to work and get the MOT done on the way home - It's not legal*.
* That's a statement, not a question as I'm damned sure that's the case.
This is, of course, hypothetical. Y'honour.
Gareth79 said:
Yes, you can drive to/from a place of repair (pre-arranged) but only AFTER an MOT failure (and not necessarily directly from the MOT station). You can't drive to a garage, have something repaired and then go to an MOT.
edit: Vehicle still needs to be roadworthy though, so steering/brakes/suspension etc. must not be in a dangerous condition.
My car failed MOT on Saturday gone, and I am trying to work out if I can legally drive it to the guy who is going to perform the necessary welding for me.edit: Vehicle still needs to be roadworthy though, so steering/brakes/suspension etc. must not be in a dangerous condition.
Edited by Gareth79 on Tuesday 8th June 17:18
Are you saying I can?
BlueSmoke said:
Gareth79 said:
Yes, you can drive to/from a place of repair (pre-arranged) but only AFTER an MOT failure (and not necessarily directly from the MOT station). You can't drive to a garage, have something repaired and then go to an MOT.
edit: Vehicle still needs to be roadworthy though, so steering/brakes/suspension etc. must not be in a dangerous condition.
My car failed MOT on Saturday gone, and I am trying to work out if I can legally drive it to the guy who is going to perform the necessary welding for me.edit: Vehicle still needs to be roadworthy though, so steering/brakes/suspension etc. must not be in a dangerous condition.
Edited by Gareth79 on Tuesday 8th June 17:18
Are you saying I can?
According to DVLA (see above) - as long as it is booked in advance, then it is legal to drive to/from a place where repairs are carried out.
So in summary:
1) taking it to a test station for an MOT test booked in advance = ok
2) bringing it away from a test station after it has failed the MOT test, to a place of repair = ok
3) taking it to a place, by previous arrangement, where problems that caused the vehicle to fail its MOT test, can be repaired = ok
4) bringing it away from a place where the problems with the vehicle have been repaired = ok
It does not specify a garage, you could repair at home so that should be ok.
It seems to be one big grey area but I think it's a bit of common sense. If you are caught with a car full of kids and shopping from Sainsburys and your MOT is out by 2 months, you are likely to be nicked for anything to the max of a court fine of £1,000.
If it's out by a day and you are driving to a garage/mot station/place where you can repair the car...are you really likely to be nicked? Doubt it...but worst case maybe a £60 fine? Depends what wrong with the car as to whether they pull you over. An unroadworthy / dangerous car will be nicked, a leaky exhaust may not be.
And as for insurance it seems to vary. Check your cert, some say the car must be roadworthy, not have a valid mot. If someone smashed into you while you were stationary for example, likelihood is that MOT would not even come up.
At the end of the day if you were pulled over and nicked for £60 you would just have to swallow it and vow to get your MOT done 1 month before it expires next time like the powers that be advise.
1) taking it to a test station for an MOT test booked in advance = ok
2) bringing it away from a test station after it has failed the MOT test, to a place of repair = ok
3) taking it to a place, by previous arrangement, where problems that caused the vehicle to fail its MOT test, can be repaired = ok
4) bringing it away from a place where the problems with the vehicle have been repaired = ok
It does not specify a garage, you could repair at home so that should be ok.
It seems to be one big grey area but I think it's a bit of common sense. If you are caught with a car full of kids and shopping from Sainsburys and your MOT is out by 2 months, you are likely to be nicked for anything to the max of a court fine of £1,000.
If it's out by a day and you are driving to a garage/mot station/place where you can repair the car...are you really likely to be nicked? Doubt it...but worst case maybe a £60 fine? Depends what wrong with the car as to whether they pull you over. An unroadworthy / dangerous car will be nicked, a leaky exhaust may not be.
And as for insurance it seems to vary. Check your cert, some say the car must be roadworthy, not have a valid mot. If someone smashed into you while you were stationary for example, likelihood is that MOT would not even come up.
At the end of the day if you were pulled over and nicked for £60 you would just have to swallow it and vow to get your MOT done 1 month before it expires next time like the powers that be advise.
Well I found this on another thread:
article said:
Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate
Form VT30 – Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate. A red form with minor details of your car, the name of tester and address of test station. This form lists the items your car failed to pass.
A Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate means one or more items have failed to meet the minimum legal requirements for a pass. The item(s) will be listed on the form. *If you intend to use your car on the roads, the item(s) will need to be replaced/repaired urgently*. It may be possible to arrange replacement/repair of failed item(s) at the test station premises, to enable your car to achieve an MOT test pass Certificate before you drive the car away.
However, if you intend to drive your car away from the test station with a Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate, there are some stipulations. It is illegal to drive a car of MOT-testable age *that does not have a current MOT test certificate* on public roads, with the exception of driving it away to a place of repair, which may include your home residence. From there you may be permitted to drive to a pre-booked place of repair, and to a pre-booked MOT test station.
It is not illegal to sell a car with a Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate, however, a buyer may be breaking the law by driving it away, unless the stipulations above are satisfied. Even then it is not guaranteed that you will not be prosecuted for driving an unroadworthy car, and your insurance may be invalidated.
www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A12921581Form VT30 – Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate. A red form with minor details of your car, the name of tester and address of test station. This form lists the items your car failed to pass.
A Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate means one or more items have failed to meet the minimum legal requirements for a pass. The item(s) will be listed on the form. *If you intend to use your car on the roads, the item(s) will need to be replaced/repaired urgently*. It may be possible to arrange replacement/repair of failed item(s) at the test station premises, to enable your car to achieve an MOT test pass Certificate before you drive the car away.
However, if you intend to drive your car away from the test station with a Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate, there are some stipulations. It is illegal to drive a car of MOT-testable age *that does not have a current MOT test certificate* on public roads, with the exception of driving it away to a place of repair, which may include your home residence. From there you may be permitted to drive to a pre-booked place of repair, and to a pre-booked MOT test station.
It is not illegal to sell a car with a Refusal of an MOT Test Certificate, however, a buyer may be breaking the law by driving it away, unless the stipulations above are satisfied. Even then it is not guaranteed that you will not be prosecuted for driving an unroadworthy car, and your insurance may be invalidated.
Edited by BlueSmoke on Thursday 10th June 06:55
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