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Hypothetical question 
With advances in materials, safety and structural engineering, do you think it be possible for a manufacturer to remake a car to an old design (not just a nod to the old design like the Beetle or Fiat 500)?
A car that came to mind was the mk1 Golf - do you think it'd be possible to take that design and build it to modern specification?
With advances in materials, safety and structural engineering, do you think it be possible for a manufacturer to remake a car to an old design (not just a nod to the old design like the Beetle or Fiat 500)?
A car that came to mind was the mk1 Golf - do you think it'd be possible to take that design and build it to modern specification?
durbster said:
Hypothetical question
With advances in materials, safety and structural engineering, do you think it be possible for a manufacturer to remake a car to an old design (not just a nod to the old design like the Beetle or Fiat 500)?
A car that came to mind was the mk1 Golf - do you think it'd be possible to take that design and build it to modern specification?
I think you're a bit late with that one...With advances in materials, safety and structural engineering, do you think it be possible for a manufacturer to remake a car to an old design (not just a nod to the old design like the Beetle or Fiat 500)?
A car that came to mind was the mk1 Golf - do you think it'd be possible to take that design and build it to modern specification?
VW South Africa have only just stopped production of the Mk1 Golf, which was updated with newer running gear, and revised interior.
Edited by shakotan on Thursday 17th June 09:26
durbster said:
Hypothetical question
With advances in materials, safety and structural engineering, do you think it be possible for a manufacturer to remake a car to an old design (not just a nod to the old design like the Beetle or Fiat 500)?
A car that came to mind was the mk1 Golf - do you think it'd be possible to take that design and build it to modern specification?
Yes!With advances in materials, safety and structural engineering, do you think it be possible for a manufacturer to remake a car to an old design (not just a nod to the old design like the Beetle or Fiat 500)?
A car that came to mind was the mk1 Golf - do you think it'd be possible to take that design and build it to modern specification?
Ford GT is a pretty good example IMO. Personally I'd love to see a new old car.
I started a thread ages back about Jag doing it with the E-Type.
there are lots of companies that do similar stuff... IIRC jag e-type, aston DB5 are amongst cars that are reproduced with new running gear and safety, security features. Can't remem company names sorry, but check the classics mags as they runs ads every so often. NOT cheap! As far as completely faithful reproductions with every part the same... dunno about that. Would depend on the ability to access all the original designs, and would likely widen the scope for patent infringement if lots of parts needed to be reproduced too. Lots might still be available though.
Blown2CV said:
there are lots of companies that do similar stuff... IIRC jag e-type, aston DB5 are amongst cars that are reproduced with new running gear and safety, security features. Can't remem company names sorry, but check the classics mags as they runs ads every so often. NOT cheap! As far as completely faithful reproductions with every part the same... dunno about that. Would depend on the ability to access all the original designs, and would likely widen the scope for patent infringement if lots of parts needed to be reproduced too. Lots might still be available though.
But these aren't really "new" cars, they are an old car restored using some modern parts.I was meaning more about a brand new car, but one that looked just like the original, rather than just taking styling cues.
Look at an XK8, especially the S1 variant and you can see some E-Type lines in it, but it doesn't look like an E-Type.
I'd love it if Jag introduced a smaller 2 seater sports car, lighter than the XK and one that looked 99% the same as an E-Type, with just a few modern touches like bigger wheels. Technically I think it'd be possible and Jag already have the R&D and drive train tech to throw straight in it.
As said the Ford GT did a good job of this, it looks modern, yet it still looks just like a GT40.
I suppose a less flamboyant example might be the current Jeep Wrangler, it still looks like a Jeep and underneath it's still the same basic construction; ladder chassis, live axles, bolt on body. But in 2005 they revamped, it. Redesigned the axles, brand new CAD designed chassis and body tub, it now has crumple zones, is pedestrian safe, handles better and is even better off road.
300bhp/ton said:
durbster said:
Hypothetical question
With advances in materials, safety and structural engineering, do you think it be possible for a manufacturer to remake a car to an old design (not just a nod to the old design like the Beetle or Fiat 500)?
A car that came to mind was the mk1 Golf - do you think it'd be possible to take that design and build it to modern specification?
Yes!With advances in materials, safety and structural engineering, do you think it be possible for a manufacturer to remake a car to an old design (not just a nod to the old design like the Beetle or Fiat 500)?
A car that came to mind was the mk1 Golf - do you think it'd be possible to take that design and build it to modern specification?
Ford GT is a pretty good example IMO. Personally I'd love to see a new old car.
I started a thread ages back about Jag doing it with the E-Type.
300bhp/ton said:
Blown2CV said:
there are lots of companies that do similar stuff... IIRC jag e-type, aston DB5 are amongst cars that are reproduced with new running gear and safety, security features. Can't remem company names sorry, but check the classics mags as they runs ads every so often. NOT cheap! As far as completely faithful reproductions with every part the same... dunno about that. Would depend on the ability to access all the original designs, and would likely widen the scope for patent infringement if lots of parts needed to be reproduced too. Lots might still be available though.
But these aren't really "new" cars, they are an old car restored using some modern parts.I was meaning more about a brand new car, but one that looked just like the original, rather than just taking styling cues.
Look at an XK8, especially the S1 variant and you can see some E-Type lines in it, but it doesn't look like an E-Type.
I'd love it if Jag introduced a smaller 2 seater sports car, lighter than the XK and one that looked 99% the same as an E-Type, with just a few modern touches like bigger wheels. Technically I think it'd be possible and Jag already have the R&D and drive train tech to throw straight in it.
As said the Ford GT did a good job of this, it looks modern, yet it still looks just like a GT40.
I suppose a less flamboyant example might be the current Jeep Wrangler, it still looks like a Jeep and underneath it's still the same basic construction; ladder chassis, live axles, bolt on body. But in 2005 they revamped, it. Redesigned the axles, brand new CAD designed chassis and body tub, it now has crumple zones, is pedestrian safe, handles better and is even better off road.
Size is the issue. I don't think it is possible to fit modern tech and crash protection into older designs as the safety kit (and the luxuries that people now expect)takes up too much space - just look at the difference in the thickness of doors and window surrounds for a start.
DBSV8 said:
300bhp/ton said:
durbster said:
Hypothetical question
With advances in materials, safety and structural engineering, do you think it be possible for a manufacturer to remake a car to an old design (not just a nod to the old design like the Beetle or Fiat 500)?
A car that came to mind was the mk1 Golf - do you think it'd be possible to take that design and build it to modern specification?
Yes!With advances in materials, safety and structural engineering, do you think it be possible for a manufacturer to remake a car to an old design (not just a nod to the old design like the Beetle or Fiat 500)?
A car that came to mind was the mk1 Golf - do you think it'd be possible to take that design and build it to modern specification?
Ford GT is a pretty good example IMO. Personally I'd love to see a new old car.
I started a thread ages back about Jag doing it with the E-Type.
300bhp/ton said:
DBSV8 said:
300bhp/ton said:
durbster said:
Hypothetical question
With advances in materials, safety and structural engineering, do you think it be possible for a manufacturer to remake a car to an old design (not just a nod to the old design like the Beetle or Fiat 500)?
A car that came to mind was the mk1 Golf - do you think it'd be possible to take that design and build it to modern specification?
Yes!With advances in materials, safety and structural engineering, do you think it be possible for a manufacturer to remake a car to an old design (not just a nod to the old design like the Beetle or Fiat 500)?
A car that came to mind was the mk1 Golf - do you think it'd be possible to take that design and build it to modern specification?
Ford GT is a pretty good example IMO. Personally I'd love to see a new old car.
I started a thread ages back about Jag doing it with the E-Type.
probably why there is one advertised for an eye watering 200k !!!
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