Another Toyota recall (?)
Another Toyota recall (?)
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streaky

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19,311 posts

279 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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Sky News Mobile said:
Toyota could recall up to 270,000 cars worldwide after discovering an engine fault in its Lexus and Crown models.

The crisis-hit manufacturer said eight of its high-end models were found to have the fault, meaning they could stall while moving.

It is the latest blow to hit the world's largest carmaker, which has recalled more than 10 million vehicles worldwide since last September, most over the risk of unintended acceleration.

Hideto Yukawa, spokesman for the Japanese company, said of the discovery: "The defective engines, whose valve springs are not working properly, may halt in the worst case scenario while driving.

"The company is preparing for taking market measures as soon as possible."

This could mean a recall, depending on a decision from regulators, Toyota said, although no accidents have been reported regarding the fault.

The problem 4.6-litre V8 and 3.5-litre V6 engines are installed in seven models of luxury Lexus sedans - the GS350, GS450h, GS460, IS350, LS460, LS600h and LS600hL - as well as the popular Crown sedan.

Of the 270,000 vehicles affected, some 180,000 were sold overseas and the rest in Japan.

Sales of some of the cars involved, 2010 Lexus GX 460s, were suspended earlier this year after a US consumer magazine issued a safety warning.

The 4x4 carried an unusually high risk of rolling over during certain types of sharp turns, according to Consumer Reports.

Toyota was recently hit with a a record $16.4m (£11m) fine from US authorities for acting too slowly to recall vehicles over previously discovered defects.
Streaky

Stig

11,823 posts

314 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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And? GM recalled 1.5m cars last month - did that hit the headlines?

Big Rod

6,265 posts

246 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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This happened to my housemate.

She bought an IS and was quite happy with it until it lost power in lane three of a motorway. She managed to coast to the hard shoulder where she restarted it and off she went again.

She put it down to 'one of those thing' until it started happening quite regularly so she took it back to the dealer where they said it would cost £6000, (to the dealer), to replace the ECU which they weren't prepared to meet so they exchanged it for an Audi.

Upshot is that the owners groups and forums have been talking about this for some time. I'm surprised it's taken so long for it to become public.

Very dangerous fault IMO.

ZesPak

26,124 posts

226 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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Big Rod said:
This happened to my housemate.

She bought an IS and was quite happy with it until it lost power in lane three of a motorway. She managed to coast to the hard shoulder where she restarted it and off she went again.

She put it down to 'one of those thing' until it started happening quite regularly so she took it back to the dealer where they said it would cost £6000, (to the dealer), to replace the ECU which they weren't prepared to meet so they exchanged it for an Audi.

Upshot is that the owners groups and forums have been talking about this for some time. I'm surprised it's taken so long for it to become public.

Very dangerous fault IMO.
So the engine goes in "safe mode"? That could happen, you lose power but usually can do at least 80mph.
Doesn't sound like anythig too bad, take it in and let it fix.

Danny S

7,543 posts

198 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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Stig said:
And? GM recalled 1.5m cars last month - did that hit the headlines?
This.

Fed up of Toyota making the headlines, ALL manufactures have recall's

frosted

3,549 posts

207 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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Lexus dealers are best in the world bar supercar stuff . The us250 doesn't have the engine that is bein recalled . And I find it hard to belive they had a manufacturer fault and lexus refused to fix it . This because I get my disc s and tires changed for free if they don't last at least 10k . It's not too bad at drifting for an auto trust me

aka_kerrly

12,506 posts

240 months

Thursday 1st July 2010
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Danny S said:
Stig said:
And? GM recalled 1.5m cars last month - did that hit the headlines?
This.

Fed up of Toyota making the headlines, ALL manufactures have recall's
American protectionism....

It is easier and better to pick on the foreigners as a great distraction technique to help convince Americans that US cars are the best, ignoring the fact so many Euro/Jap cars are built in the USA (well Lexus have a plant in canada) so its likely that some of these faults are brought on by their own shoddy workmanship.

Danny S

7,543 posts

198 months

Friday 2nd July 2010
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Its fking stupid


Scuffers

20,887 posts

304 months

Friday 2nd July 2010
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Big Rod said:
This happened to my housemate.

She bought an IS and was quite happy with it until it lost power in lane three of a motorway. She managed to coast to the hard shoulder where she restarted it and off she went again.

She put it down to 'one of those thing' until it started happening quite regularly so she took it back to the dealer where they said it would cost £6000, (to the dealer), to replace the ECU which they weren't prepared to meet so they exchanged it for an Audi.

Upshot is that the owners groups and forums have been talking about this for some time. I'm surprised it's taken so long for it to become public.

Very dangerous fault IMO.
how is this 'very dangerous'?


rb5230

11,657 posts

202 months

Friday 2nd July 2010
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Scuffers said:
Big Rod said:
This happened to my housemate.

She bought an IS and was quite happy with it until it lost power in lane three of a motorway. She managed to coast to the hard shoulder where she restarted it and off she went again.

She put it down to 'one of those thing' until it started happening quite regularly so she took it back to the dealer where they said it would cost £6000, (to the dealer), to replace the ECU which they weren't prepared to meet so they exchanged it for an Audi.

Upshot is that the owners groups and forums have been talking about this for some time. I'm surprised it's taken so long for it to become public.

Very dangerous fault IMO.
how is this 'very dangerous'?
erm losing all power in lane 3 of a motorway, do you need it spelt out to you?

ZesPak

26,124 posts

226 months

Friday 2nd July 2010
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rb5230 said:
Scuffers said:
Big Rod said:
This happened to my housemate.

She bought an IS and was quite happy with it until it lost power in lane three of a motorway. She managed to coast to the hard shoulder where she restarted it and off she went again.

She put it down to 'one of those thing' until it started happening quite regularly so she took it back to the dealer where they said it would cost £6000, (to the dealer), to replace the ECU which they weren't prepared to meet so they exchanged it for an Audi.

Upshot is that the owners groups and forums have been talking about this for some time. I'm surprised it's taken so long for it to become public.

Very dangerous fault IMO.
how is this 'very dangerous'?
erm losing all power in lane 3 of a motorway, do you need it spelt out to you?
No, like I said before, from the sound of it the car went into "emergency run" which means you lose power, but are still able to drive.
Most cars even do over 70mph when in emergency run.
Might have a little fright at first, but not dangerous imho.

frosted

3,549 posts

207 months

Friday 2nd July 2010
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this was even on the BBC news , how pathetic

rb5230

11,657 posts

202 months

Friday 2nd July 2010
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ZesPak said:
rb5230 said:
Scuffers said:
Big Rod said:
This happened to my housemate.

She bought an IS and was quite happy with it until it lost power in lane three of a motorway. She managed to coast to the hard shoulder where she restarted it and off she went again.

She put it down to 'one of those thing' until it started happening quite regularly so she took it back to the dealer where they said it would cost £6000, (to the dealer), to replace the ECU which they weren't prepared to meet so they exchanged it for an Audi.

Upshot is that the owners groups and forums have been talking about this for some time. I'm surprised it's taken so long for it to become public.

Very dangerous fault IMO.
how is this 'very dangerous'?
erm losing all power in lane 3 of a motorway, do you need it spelt out to you?
No, like I said before, from the sound of it the car went into "emergency run" which means you lose power, but are still able to drive.
Most cars even do over 70mph when in emergency run.
Might have a little fright at first, but not dangerous imho.
looks to me like he said it "lost power and had to COAST to the hard shoulder", then "had to restart the car". unless we are reading it differently he is saying the car cut out.

Elskeggso

3,100 posts

217 months

Friday 2nd July 2010
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Danny S said:
Its fking stupid

rofl

A205GTI

750 posts

196 months

Friday 2nd July 2010
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rb5230 said:
ZesPak said:
rb5230 said:
Scuffers said:
Big Rod said:
This happened to my housemate.

She bought an IS and was quite happy with it until it lost power in lane three of a motorway. She managed to coast to the hard shoulder where she restarted it and off she went again.

She put it down to 'one of those thing' until it started happening quite regularly so she took it back to the dealer where they said it would cost £6000, (to the dealer), to replace the ECU which they weren't prepared to meet so they exchanged it for an Audi.

Upshot is that the owners groups and forums have been talking about this for some time. I'm surprised it's taken so long for it to become public.

Very dangerous fault IMO.
how is this 'very dangerous'?
erm losing all power in lane 3 of a motorway, do you need it spelt out to you?
No, like I said before, from the sound of it the car went into "emergency run" which means you lose power, but are still able to drive.
Most cars even do over 70mph when in emergency run.
Might have a little fright at first, but not dangerous imho.
looks to me like he said it "lost power and had to COAST to the hard shoulder", then "had to restart the car". unless we are reading it differently he is saying the car cut out.
I find that hard to believe that it cut out and she coasted, The power steering would have failed if the engine cut out and If you have ever tried to drive a car when the power steering has gone thay are very very heavy!.

G_T

16,163 posts

220 months

Friday 2nd July 2010
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You're honestly calling him a liar without so much as knowing who he's talking about?

Jesus mate... Lighten up.

Tunku

7,703 posts

258 months

Friday 2nd July 2010
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Not at 70 mph they're not.

rb5230

11,657 posts

202 months

Friday 2nd July 2010
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A205GTI said:
I find that hard to believe that it cut out and she coasted, The power steering would have failed if the engine cut out and If you have ever tried to drive a car when the power steering has gone thay are very very heavy!.
when a car is moving even when the power steering is lost the steering remains sufficiently light whilst doing anything above about 30mph, until you are doing crawling speeds when it is very heavy.

A205GTI

750 posts

196 months

Friday 2nd July 2010
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G_T said:
You're honestly calling him a liar without so much as knowing who he's talking about?

Jesus mate... Lighten up.
Im not calling anyone a liar at all i am just saying when my Avensis had its power steering belt snap you could feel it on the steering thats all, im not looking to take offence and I am sorry if it cam across that way.

rb5230

11,657 posts

202 months

Friday 2nd July 2010
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A205GTI said:
Im not calling anyone a liar at all i am just saying when my Avensis had its power steering belt snap you could feel it on the steering thats all, im not looking to take offence and I am sorry if it cam across that way.
same happened on my galaxy, alternator belt went which was linked to the power steering, trying to manouver it round a car park was a nightmare, but whilst being towed home it lightened up nicely.