Sega Rally - Where are they now ?

[J4CKO]

Remember the game Sega Rally, the main protaganists being the hallowed Lancia delta Integrale and the Toyota Celica GT4.

Now, like any car enthusiast I have a soft spot from the Integrale, they just look so right, only ever been in the original 8 valve but it left an impression, no experience of driving one and have never driven that era Celica of any type but always found them alluring and the thought that they may be a little less "Italian" in certain departments added to the allure.

So, where are they now ?, the Integrale was in Autocar the other day getting a glittering write up, price wise they are going Stratos-pheric (sorry) at up to 30 grand but the poor old Celica with which it shared the early nineties arcade scene on equal billing, is now seemingly fairly unloved apart from its owners club, the best of the best (well, the most expensive on Ebay, big assumption there) lurking round for under (well under in some cases) five grand like faded stars doing reality tv for a few quid, is the Celica really Timmy Mallet to the "Grales" Kylie Minogue ?

[LD1Racing]

J4CKO said:

Remember the game Sega Rally, the main protaganists being the hallowed Lancia delta Integrale and the Toyota Celica GT4.

Now, like any car enthusiast I have a soft spot from the Integrale, they just look so right, only ever been in the original 8 valve but it left an impression, no experience of driving one and have never driven that era Celica of any type but always found them alluring and the thought that they may be a little less "Italian" in certain departments added to the allure.

So, where are they now ?, the Integrale was in Autocar the other day getting a glittering write up, price wise they are going Stratos-pheric (sorry) at up to 30 grand but the poor old Celica with which it shared the early nineties arcade scene on equal billing, is now seemingly fairly unloved apart from its owners club, the best of the best (well, the most expensive on Ebay, big assumption there) lurking round for under (well under in some cases) five grand like faded stars doing reality tv for a few quid, is the Celica really Timmy Mallet to the "Grales" Kylie Minogue ?

All down to image I'm afraid, the Italian fantasy plays better than the Japanese one, regardless of the reality. Though I remember reviews at the time thought the GT-Four a little sterile and almost too good.

[Ved]

Having owned a 205 I can tell you they still stack up againt today's rally reps very well. But that's over-engineered 90s Toyotas for you.

The HF is no doubt a great car but one is bought to store & drive and the other own.

[Graham]

Its the same for the nissan pulsar GTiR.. a mega little 4x4 rice rocket, can be yours from a grand !!!

a grale probably costs more every time you start it up...


Id still have a grale though :heh:

Edited by Graham on Thursday 1st July 23:45

[TXWRX]

i don't think the celica GT4 was as successful, and with it toyota eventually got banned from rallying for the variable restrictor they made. Interestingly the wiki enntry on the car whilst being quite detailed doesn't seem to mention that..

[J4CKO]

I have a massive "thing" for the GT4, saw a lad in a black one at an Oulton Park Drift day, he was geting some obscene angles and it was doing the whole popping thing.

I can see why the Integrale is dearer, I remember those reviews, and there is a bit of a whiffy image with the whole Jap import thing, thought the GT4 was quite a classy thing when new, kind of respectable, middle class sporty, before Audi really nailed it.

But is an Integrale worth 5 or 6 times more ?

[J4CKO]

And then the Impreza arived and p1ssed on both their bonfires !

[LD1Racing]

J4CKO said:

But is an Integrale worth 5 or 6 times more ?

Something is only worth what people will pay, so the answer is yes. Is it 5 or 6 times the car? No.

[LD1Racing]

J4CKO said:

And then the Impreza arived and p1ssed on both their bonfires !

But also available as an official UK car, long before the Lancer too. Interesting that Escort Cosworth prices haven't really picked up much yet. An early Twin Cam or good Mk 2 is worth more than a Cosworth.

[anonymous-user]

J4CKO said:

And then the Impreza arived and p1ssed on both their bonfires !

And everybody else's....

[dan19evans]

LD1Racing said:

J4CKO said:

And then the Impreza arived and p1ssed on both their bonfires !

But also available as an official UK car, long before the Lancer too. Interesting that Escort Cosworth prices haven't really picked up much yet. An early Twin Cam or good Mk 2 is worth more than a Cosworth.

I'd say there are alot more Cosworths around in the UK than there are Intergrales though..

[LD1Racing]

dan19evans said:

LD1Racing said:

J4CKO said:

And then the Impreza arived and p1ssed on both their bonfires !

But also available as an official UK car, long before the Lancer too. Interesting that Escort Cosworth prices haven't really picked up much yet. An early Twin Cam or good Mk 2 is worth more than a Cosworth.

I'd say there are alot more Cosworths around in the UK than there are Intergrales though..

I'd say you're right.

[dan19evans]

LD1Racing said:

dan19evans said:

LD1Racing said:

J4CKO said:

And then the Impreza arived and p1ssed on both their bonfires !

But also available as an official UK car, long before the Lancer too. Interesting that Escort Cosworth prices haven't really picked up much yet. An early Twin Cam or good Mk 2 is worth more than a Cosworth.

I'd say there are alot more Cosworths around in the UK than there are Intergrales though..

I'd say you're right.

and that just makes me want an intergrale more

[LD1Racing]

dan19evans said:

LD1Racing said:

dan19evans said:

LD1Racing said:

J4CKO said:

And then the Impreza arived and p1ssed on both their bonfires !

But also available as an official UK car, long before the Lancer too. Interesting that Escort Cosworth prices haven't really picked up much yet. An early Twin Cam or good Mk 2 is worth more than a Cosworth.

I'd say there are alot more Cosworths around in the UK than there are Intergrales though..

I'd say you're right.

and that just makes me want an intergrale more

Q.E.D.

[jayfish]

and of course when you finisihed all three tracks in one credit you unlocked a Stratos which was mentally fast but an utter bh to control (geek mode!)

[Shinysideup]

jayfish said:

and of course when you finisihed all three tracks in one credit you unlocked a Stratos which was mentally fast but an utter bh to control (geek mode!)

The Sega Rally arcade cabinets at my local pool hall used to have a design fault, whereby if you held full lock to the left when inserting your 50p you could play unlimited times for as long as you liked until they reset the machine at night. I clocked up many hours on that game.

[Negative Creep]

That game played a major part in getting me interested in cars. Still want an Integrale partly for that reason (had the next best thing, but not close enough). I also managed to get a top 10 ten time on the desert course in C&VG magazine. Great times, still have a copy of it and a Saturn to play it on in my parent's loft

[dudleybloke]

the recent one on ps3 was crap.

[dan19evans]

dudleybloke said:

the recent one on ps3 was crap.

you want to get colin mcrae dirt 2 on the ps3.. much betterer

[ShiggyBiggs]

iirc, it had a secret track aswell, on the saturn version anyway!