Air-con regassing
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ferrisbueller

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30,317 posts

257 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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My air-con isn't working. I'm assuming it needs a re-gas. Just wanted to ask whether the compressor would be cutting in regardless of whether the system was gassed?

I notice Halfords are doing a check and recharge canister for £50. Has anyone used one?

Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Kwik-Fit do a thing where if they gas it and it doesn't help, they wont charge you.

ferrisbueller

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30,317 posts

257 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Plotloss said:
Kwik-Fit do a thing where if they gas it and it doesn't help, they wont charge you.
scratchchin

paoloh

8,617 posts

234 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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ferrisbueller said:
Plotloss said:
Kwik-Fit do a thing where if they gas it and it doesn't help, they wont charge you.
scratchchin
Can't go wrong with this option really.

ferrisbueller

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Saturday 24th July 2010
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paoloh said:
ferrisbueller said:
Plotloss said:
Kwik-Fit do a thing where if they gas it and it doesn't help, they wont charge you.
scratchchin
Can't go wrong with this option really.
Kwik-fit say:-

Recharge or No Charge
Let Kwik Fit recharge your Air Con while-u-wait. We will replace and recharge lubricant and refrigerant levels in line with your manufacturer’s recommendation. If we cannot improve the coolest vent temperature from your car by more than 10% when measured in degrees Celsius - then you pay nothing at all.*

If you have pre-paid by booking your appointment online, we will arrange for your credit or debit card to be refunded.

  • Please note if the ambient temperature around the car is less than 9 degrees Celsius it may affect the results of the AirCon recharge test results. In these circumstances, it is at the managers discretion whether to offer a refund with results less than 10%.

Edited by ferrisbueller on Saturday 24th July 12:59

Squid Biker

76 posts

195 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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ferrisbueller said:
Just wanted to ask whether the compressor would be cutting in regardless of whether the system was gassed?
No it won't. If the pressure in the system is sufficiently low enough, the pressure switch will not allow the compressor to run. Low pressure = not enough refrigerant.

ferrisbueller

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Saturday 24th July 2010
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Squid Biker said:
ferrisbueller said:
Just wanted to ask whether the compressor would be cutting in regardless of whether the system was gassed?
No it won't. If the pressure in the system is sufficiently low enough, the pressure switch will not allow the compressor to run. Low pressure = not enough refrigerant.
Thought that may be the case.

Thanks.

ferrisbueller

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Saturday 24th July 2010
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Anyone tried this?

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

Apparently enough for three recharges per canister (£60 retail)

Plotloss

67,280 posts

300 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Why not try the kwik fit route first? No risk.

It's not like its less than 9degs outside.

Mind you, it could well be in the North I suppose...

ferrisbueller

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Saturday 24th July 2010
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Plotloss said:
Why not try the kwik fit route first? No risk.

It's not like its less than 9degs outside.

Mind you, it could well be in the North I suppose...
I was thinking if I got the canister I could do my mate's car as well wink

paoloh

8,617 posts

234 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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ferrisbueller said:
Plotloss said:
Why not try the kwik fit route first? No risk.

It's not like its less than 9degs outside.

Mind you, it could well be in the North I suppose...
I was thinking if I got the canister I could do my mate's car as well wink
Until you fill your car up and find out it has a leak....

balls-out

3,794 posts

261 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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I have re-gassed 2 cars. both the air con worked for a few days before the returning to nothing.
If a re-gas is needed, I can't help thinking that means their is a leak!

ferrisbueller

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257 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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paoloh said:
ferrisbueller said:
Plotloss said:
Why not try the kwik fit route first? No risk.

It's not like its less than 9degs outside.

Mind you, it could well be in the North I suppose...
I was thinking if I got the canister I could do my mate's car as well wink
Until you fill your car up and find out it has a leak....
The Kwik-fit option runs the same risk, no? It might work for a day, thus satisfying their criteria, and then stop.

paoloh

8,617 posts

234 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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ferrisbueller said:
paoloh said:
ferrisbueller said:
Plotloss said:
Why not try the kwik fit route first? No risk.

It's not like its less than 9degs outside.

Mind you, it could well be in the North I suppose...
I was thinking if I got the canister I could do my mate's car as well wink
Until you fill your car up and find out it has a leak....
The Kwik-fit option runs the same risk, no? It might work for a day, thus satisfying their criteria, and then stop.
Err, no as they should check pressure

ferrisbueller

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30,317 posts

257 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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paoloh said:
ferrisbueller said:
paoloh said:
ferrisbueller said:
Plotloss said:
Why not try the kwik fit route first? No risk.

It's not like its less than 9degs outside.

Mind you, it could well be in the North I suppose...
I was thinking if I got the canister I could do my mate's car as well wink
Until you fill your car up and find out it has a leak....
The Kwik-fit option runs the same risk, no? It might work for a day, thus satisfying their criteria, and then stop.
Err, no as they should check pressure
As does the canister option. Would kwik-fit do some kind of pressure decay overcheck?

paoloh

8,617 posts

234 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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ferrisbueller said:
paoloh said:
ferrisbueller said:
paoloh said:
ferrisbueller said:
Plotloss said:
Why not try the kwik fit route first? No risk.

It's not like its less than 9degs outside.

Mind you, it could well be in the North I suppose...
I was thinking if I got the canister I could do my mate's car as well wink
Until you fill your car up and find out it has a leak....
The Kwik-fit option runs the same risk, no? It might work for a day, thus satisfying their criteria, and then stop.
Err, no as they should check pressure
As does the canister option. Would kwik-fit do some kind of pressure decay overcheck?
Yes but you've already paid for the canister

deeen

6,410 posts

275 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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Took my old Omega to Kwick-fit, they pressure checked first, found some problem, "sorry we can't help you", no charge, all seemed very fair

Squid Biker

76 posts

195 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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If you're empty chances are you could have a leak. A good air-con person will check the pressure in the system first. No pressure, you might be taking a risk if on re-gas it appears to maintain pressure once filled. It might take a week to empty so the question is, if you pay QF what is the situation a week later when the system is empty. Will they test again and if it appears to hold pressure agree it must be a slow leak so you're entitled to a refund seeing as they got it wrong.

James_N

3,303 posts

264 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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I paid a chap with a mobile aircon regassing business £50 to totally refill my aircon and check for leaks. Top service and much better than muppet fit!

Rich_W

12,548 posts

242 months

Saturday 24th July 2010
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ferrisbueller said:
Anyone tried this?

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...

Apparently enough for three recharges per canister (£60 retail)
Given that R134a is a CFC gas and has to be disposed of environmentally responsibly. I would wonder what gas is ACTUALLY inside that tin. Probably nitrogen.