Cheap tyres
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Plotloss

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67,280 posts

300 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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For a cheap car.

One assumes that these chinese ting tong ditchfinders and the like are a complete false economy?

Another tenner or so per corner seems to get Avon AV3s which I assume would be far superior.

Any thoughts?

freakynessless

473 posts

212 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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Go with the Avons.
A while ago I used to run Firestone Firehawks on my old 306. They were only about £40 a corner and not too bad, not fantastic by any means but for a budget tyre I would recommend them. One of them did 49,000 miles on the front and was still on there when I sold it.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

212 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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Plotloss said:
One assumes that these chinese ting tong ditchfinders and the like are a complete false economy?
They are.

Stick with the mid-range brands like Kumho, Hankook, Vredestein and the like, they'll last as long as the Woosung Spinola Sports, and you'll not die in a fiery ball of death when you fall off the road the first time it rains.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

261 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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Plotloss said:
For a cheap car.

One assumes that these chinese ting tong ditchfinders and the like are a complete false economy?

Another tenner or so per corner seems to get Avon AV3s which I assume would be far superior.

Any thoughts?
Just put Sumitomo HTRZ IIIs on the Z4 for $712, lock, stock, and barrel. Absolutely satisfied with them. Handling and wet grip is very good.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

212 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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Jimbeaux said:
Just put Sumitomo HTRZ IIIs on the Z4 for $712, lock, stock, and barrel. Absolutely satisfied with them. Handling and wet grip is very good.
Good show. Shame you can't get them in the UK. But thanks for the thought. smile

Huntsman

9,336 posts

280 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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I've had el cheapo Nankang tyres on my 520i for 40k miles and they are only about 2/3 worn now, handling is good wet or dry. Ideal for pootling about in a ordinary car.


Plotloss

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67,280 posts

300 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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Just called a local place, two branded part worns for £35 fitted.

There's a catch isn't there?

chris7676

2,685 posts

250 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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Ting Tong was Thai. Why you assume Avons would be better ?

Jakg

4,041 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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I had a lovely mixture of Triangles and Ling Longs at the back on a set of wheels I bought for my old Proton Wira... unexpected oversteer in the damp is always fun, especially when your not even pushing the car...

After this happened twice in one journey the first time it got damp I got some Toyo T1-R's (not exactly expensive) and suddenly the car had "handling" again.

Went back to steels and needed some tyres asap so ended up with some "Prime Wells" at the front... instant understeer in the damp and wheelspin at any damp junction.

Chinese tyres are fine for dry roads or motorways, but they aren't built for corners or water. Which is a bit useless in the UK.

Decent tyres (not 888's / AO48's, just something midrange that doesn't sound like something terribly mistranslated) are barely anymore than the knockoffs. Why risk it?

itz_baseline

833 posts

251 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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Huntsman said:
I've had el cheapo Nankang tyres on my 520i for 40k miles and they are only about 2/3 worn now, handling is good wet or dry. Ideal for pootling about in a ordinary car.
I had some of these on mine. Although they certainly weren't as good as the recommended stock tyres (Mitchelin Sport Pilot 2), they were very good and about a 3rd of the price (£80ish a tyre instead of £230ish).

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

240 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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yep: some people will try and convince you that you will die by using second hand tyres. Chances are if they came off a written off vehicle there could be some damage to the tyre that is not immediately obvious. Check them over carefully and you should be fine though. I have run part worns before and got a bargain on a pair of Eagle F1s that came off a customer car as they insisted on having 4 tyres replaced when only the fronts were worn! Find someone like that and you can bag a pair of rears with 5+mm of tread on them for pennies ;-)

inlovewithRWD

825 posts

202 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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If you're looking for reasonably cheap tyres I'd recommend Kumho KU31s. I have them on my 318is and they offer good levels of grip in dry/wet and seem to wear well too.

otolith

68,918 posts

234 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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The GT Radial Champiros that Kwik-Fit had sold to the previous owner of our Impreza were unspeakably awful. No grip wet or dry. I binned all four before they were worn out and fitted some all season Vredesteins, which have been brilliant, wet, dry, snow.

dugt

1,657 posts

237 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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Plotloss said:
Just called a local place, two branded part worns for £35 fitted.

There's a catch isn't there?
why would someone take off tyres that are ok to use?

dougc

8,241 posts

295 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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dugt said:
Plotloss said:
Just called a local place, two branded part worns for £35 fitted.

There's a catch isn't there?
why would someone take off tyres that are ok to use?
I've got a couple in the shed - only half worn when the opposing tyre on the same axle got damaged/punctured and I tend to change them in pairs.

Dog Star

17,600 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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dugt said:
Plotloss said:
Just called a local place, two branded part worns for £35 fitted.

There's a catch isn't there?
why would someone take off tyres that are ok to use?
Do you go and buy a full set of new tyres everytime you buy a new car?

v8will

3,310 posts

226 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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Dog Star said:
dugt said:
Plotloss said:
Just called a local place, two branded part worns for £35 fitted.

There's a catch isn't there?
why would someone take off tyres that are ok to use?
Do you go and buy a full set of new tyres everytime you buy a new car?
IIRC some european countries operate a law where complete axle sets must be changed at the same time, I think alot of part worns are available that way.

EDLT

15,421 posts

236 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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dugt said:
Plotloss said:
Just called a local place, two branded part worns for £35 fitted.

There's a catch isn't there?
why would someone take off tyres that are ok to use?
Because the car has been scrapped. The tyres would have to be disposed of separately regardless of how much life is left on them.

OnTheOverrun

3,965 posts

207 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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dugt said:
Plotloss said:
Just called a local place, two branded part worns for £35 fitted.

There's a catch isn't there?
why would someone take off tyres that are ok to use?
Because they are such a careful owner they have written their car off. . . . . . biggrin

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

225 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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I have fairly cheap tyres on the back of my BMW and they are much much better than the Pirellis that were on it costing twice as much, more grip, less noise, seem to be lasting better and not as prone to snapping the car the other way when sideways (maybe Ive just gotten better at that)

But if the tyres good its good, look at reviews and dont be fooled by thinking a big brand and more expensive is always better.