Mk2 Focus Saloon - Yay or Nay?
Mk2 Focus Saloon - Yay or Nay?
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superhans88

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183 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Hi guys, I've just bought myself a 3 year old focus 4dr in black in titanium spec. It's really just a workhorse car but I was looking for your opinion about the aesthetics of it. I've always liked the profile of a traditional 3 box saloon and although the Mk1 4dr was ugly, I think the Mk2 looks quite nice. You don't see many so that makes it look unusual at first but I have to say it's growing on me! Seems quite well proportioned, although others disagree!

So what do you guys think then? Saloon or hatch?

einstein75

120 posts

194 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Hatch all the time, if you must get a saloon then I agree that the mk2 is better looking than the mk1. Why not a mondeo?

kambites

71,475 posts

250 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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I think the mk2 hatch and saloon are both equally ugly, personally. The mk1 hatch is better looking, the mk1 saloon worse.

va1o

16,114 posts

236 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Saloon looks ugly, very unpopular car they are cheaper used than the hatchbacks for a reason, will be hard to sell on.

EDIT: All IMO of course wink Each to there own, enjoy the car

Edited by va1o on Wednesday 11th August 16:48

ian_c_uk

1,451 posts

232 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Like it, always a shame they didn't make an ST saloon...




Shaw Tarse

31,889 posts

232 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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^^ That's not too bad, now the Clio Saloon frown

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

219 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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superhans88 said:
Hi guys, I've just bought myself a 3 year old focus 4dr in black in titanium spec. It's really just a workhorse car but I was looking for your opinion about the aesthetics of it. I've always liked the profile of a traditional 3 box saloon and although the Mk1 4dr was ugly, I think the Mk2 looks quite nice. You don't see many so that makes it look unusual at first but I have to say it's growing on me! Seems quite well proportioned, although others disagree!

So what do you guys think then? Saloon or hatch?
I saw one at a petrol station a month or so back in light met blue. I was surprised how good it looked actually. I don't think pics do it justice and the rear 3/4 view actually seemed very well penned in my view.

So in all honesty I think it looks better than the hatch variant.

superhans88

Original Poster:

183 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Well it's nice to see that a couple of you agree and I'm loving that ST saloon! I think that some small saloons look pretty awful as the boot is quite clearly an afterthought and totally out of sync with the rest of the car. I just think that if ford had never launched the mk2 hatch and released that instead most would quite like it.

Also, why is it that saloons of any kind are only popular in this country if they have a german badge. I mean the VW jetta is a common sight and that's just a booted golf. The 4dr focus is actually about the same size as an old shape A4 and IMO looks just as well balanced.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

219 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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superhans88 said:
I just think that if ford had never launched the mk2 hatch and released that instead most would quite like it.
Fully agree, but most people are sheep, so will only like what the "think" they are supposed to like.... rolleyes

superhans88 said:
Also, why is it that saloons of any kind are only popular in this country if they have a german badge. I mean the VW jetta is a common sight and that's just a booted golf. The 4dr focus is actually about the same size as an old shape A4 and IMO looks just as well balanced.
Again because most people are sheep I think. A sad fact, but true.

_rubinho_

1,237 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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The saloon is number one on my list of "Cars which were originally designed as hatchbacks and were then made into saloons but shouldn't have". Please don't do it and leave this abomination to the Yanks for whom it was designed.

ETA: NAY! as this is what was asked by the OP

Edited by _rubinho_ on Wednesday 11th August 17:45

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

219 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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_rubinho_ said:
The saloon is number one on my list of "Cars which were originally designed as hatchbacks and were then made into saloons but shouldn't have". Please don't do it and leave this abomination to the Yanks for whom it was designed.
Have you actually seen one of the cars being discussed? It's as well balanced and penned as any other regular saloon.

_rubinho_

1,237 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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300bhp/ton said:
_rubinho_ said:
The saloon is number one on my list of "Cars which were originally designed as hatchbacks and were then made into saloons but shouldn't have". Please don't do it and leave this abomination to the Yanks for whom it was designed.
Have you actually seen one of the cars being discussed? It's as well balanced and penned as any other regular saloon.
Yes and I beg to differ. To my eyes it's as badly penned as the rest of the other hatches which were turned into saloons for the non-European market!

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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This is the best looking small saloon in recent time!


superhans88

Original Poster:

183 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Well all I can say is that 300bhp/ton is a man of sound reasoning! I can understand the gripes people have with the supermini saloons you see on the continent, but I actually prefer the 3 box design so long as it has been well executed. I don't mean to sound pretentious but a decently balanced saloon looks smarter and more purposeful than the equivalent hatch, if anything it is the practical hatch that should have the frumpy image. Maybe I'm just old fashioned!

kambites

71,475 posts

250 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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superhans88 said:
If anything it is the practical hatch that should have the frumpy image. Maybe I'm just old fashioned!
No, I agree. I would never buy a saloon because as far as I can see they just aren't as good as hatches or estates, but I do think they tend to look better balanced. The exceptions typically being those designed first as hatches. However I think the Focus mk2 gets away with it quite well.

volumeone

321 posts

193 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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ian_c_uk said:
Like it, always a shame they didn't make an ST saloon...

This is essentially a Focus ST saloon but with added luxury:


300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

219 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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_rubinho_ said:
300bhp/ton said:
_rubinho_ said:
The saloon is number one on my list of "Cars which were originally designed as hatchbacks and were then made into saloons but shouldn't have". Please don't do it and leave this abomination to the Yanks for whom it was designed.
Have you actually seen one of the cars being discussed? It's as well balanced and penned as any other regular saloon.
Yes and I beg to differ. To my eyes it's as badly penned as the rest of the other hatches which were turned into saloons for the non-European market!
Is that not more to do with two things though?

1. As a nation we seem almost pervertly obsessed with hatchbacks
2. You saw the hatch variant first, and due to point 1 above, your expectation was a Focus should be hatch period


And looking at this, I don't see how it looks remotely hatch with a boot tacked on (check out that C pillar line, it's not a hatchback shape), if anything its the hatch that looks the afterthought.


MondeoMan1981

2,458 posts

212 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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MonkeyMatt said:
This is the best looking small saloon in recent time!

+1

I love these in a "normal car" kind of way. The newer shape one is even better looking, they do it in a slightly lighter blue similar to Ford's Miami Blue of the 80s/90s mmmm

Rusty Arches

694 posts

202 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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MonkeyMatt said:
This is the best looking small saloon in recent time!


ian_c_uk

1,451 posts

232 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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MondeoMan1981 said:
MonkeyMatt said:
This is the best looking small saloon in recent time!

+1

I love these in a "normal car" kind of way. The newer shape one is even better looking, they do it in a slightly lighter blue similar to Ford's Miami Blue of the 80s/90s mmmm
+1, really like the Mazda, it's a neat design.