Beefing up a childs electric car...
Beefing up a childs electric car...
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Landlord

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12,689 posts

286 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Hi,

I have a 12v electric car for my boys and I'd like to beef up the power a little. I currently doesn't cope too well with even moderate inclines.

So... I have no idea where to start really. I guess changing the motors for 24v would do the trick but they'd probably make the car unusable/too powerful. I think the car has a motor on each wheel but if not, I guess adding motors to undriven wheels will do the trick too.

I guess what I'm after is some ideas from you engineering geniuses!

Cheers!
Phil.

dilbert

7,741 posts

260 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Landlord said:
Hi,

I have a 12v electric car for my boys and I'd like to beef up the power a little. I currently doesn't cope too well with even moderate inclines.

So... I have no idea where to start really. I guess changing the motors for 24v would do the trick but they'd probably make the car unusable/too powerful. I think the car has a motor on each wheel but if not, I guess adding motors to undriven wheels will do the trick too.

I guess what I'm after is some ideas from you engineering geniuses!

Cheers!
Phil.
Put a Briggs and Stratton in it!
hehe

(Electricity is for starter motors.)

Edited by dilbert on Sunday 22 August 14:32

Ferg

15,242 posts

286 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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The permanent magnet motor on my son's Real Life Toys Jeep came off a 24v electric bicycle, but I ran it on 12v. I calculated the chaindrive sprockets to suit. I would guess that putting more volts in might be the way forward????

dxg

10,732 posts

289 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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slomax

7,268 posts

221 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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could you use 2 starter motors off 2 12V car batteries to make it four wheel drive?

Ferg

15,242 posts

286 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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slomax said:
could you use 2 starter motors off 2 12V car batteries to make it four wheel drive?
Starters are really no good. Big, heavy, collosal(SP?) torque.

Mc lovin

5,588 posts

250 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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EDLT

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235 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Morningside

24,147 posts

258 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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If it can be done on a pushbike then..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPVy3z_xi6g

eldar

25,274 posts

225 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Ferg said:
slomax said:
could you use 2 starter motors off 2 12V car batteries to make it four wheel drive?
Starters are really no good. Big, heavy, collosal(SP?) torque.
Huge torque, what's the problemsmile

Ferg

15,242 posts

286 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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eldar said:
Ferg said:
slomax said:
could you use 2 starter motors off 2 12V car batteries to make it four wheel drive?
Starters are really no good. Big, heavy, collosal(SP?) torque.
Huge torque, what's the problemsmile
Making the rest of the car strong enough to transmit the power.

The Lukas

2,773 posts

223 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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This

I take no responsibility should something go wrong...

Eggman

1,253 posts

240 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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Having a look at it to see how it's put together would probably be the best place to start.

Before tearing the thing to bits, I would experiment with a car battery to find out if the one that's in there at the moment is the limiting factor (if it is, buy a replacement sealed battery from Maplin). If not, I would be looking to replace the motor with a more powerful 12-ish volt (not 24v) one. Depending on what it looks like, I would be thinking in terms of cannibalising something like a chunky rechargeable drill, an electric golf caddy or wheelchair, possibly a rechargeable lawnmower or windscreen wipers/electric windows to get the new motor cheaply and easily. You want one that'll fit with the minimum amount of modification and fabrication; the mountings will need to be pretty strong because it'll be trying to rip itself out of them.

CPB31

3,804 posts

217 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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You need to increase the voltage supplied to the motors to speed them up. Changing the motors for 24v will halve the speed if you only supply them with 12v (assuming similarly rated motor... You could put another 12v battery in series with the existing one.

Check your cabling; under load the motors will draw a fair bit of current, so your power cables need to be appropriately rated as this can cause notable losses.

rottie102

4,033 posts

213 months

Sunday 22nd August 2010
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