Its Thursday, Talk To Me! - Oil Filters...
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HI There,
I was discussing my little ol' mini with an old engineer pal of mine, and we got onto how my oil temp rises alot on motorway stretches (like you do).
He mentioned you could go down the oil cooler route but that's alot of commitment for cruising down the motorway every few weeks. Plus at the moment with my age, the insurance company just isn't interested in modifications.
He did however mention that back in the good old days (when where I live was fields apparently!) that he used to use finned oil filters just to get a bit more than the sump fins just cooling the oil. He said they were covers that would slide over the filter just to help dissipate heat.
To my question, does a similar product exist for today's more modern spin-on filters which my 1992 car uses? If not, could anyone suggest ideas for how to fabricate something similar?
I thought perhaps extending a water hose past the filter, heatsinking it somehow? Just a rambling in my head!
Any input wanted! Cheers!
I was discussing my little ol' mini with an old engineer pal of mine, and we got onto how my oil temp rises alot on motorway stretches (like you do).
He mentioned you could go down the oil cooler route but that's alot of commitment for cruising down the motorway every few weeks. Plus at the moment with my age, the insurance company just isn't interested in modifications.
He did however mention that back in the good old days (when where I live was fields apparently!) that he used to use finned oil filters just to get a bit more than the sump fins just cooling the oil. He said they were covers that would slide over the filter just to help dissipate heat.
To my question, does a similar product exist for today's more modern spin-on filters which my 1992 car uses? If not, could anyone suggest ideas for how to fabricate something similar?
I thought perhaps extending a water hose past the filter, heatsinking it somehow? Just a rambling in my head!
Any input wanted! Cheers!
rawkyjnr said:
HI There,
I was discussing my little ol' mini with an old engineer pal of mine, and we got onto how my oil temp rises alot on motorway stretches (like you do).
He mentioned you could go down the oil cooler route but that's alot of commitment for cruising down the motorway every few weeks. Plus at the moment with my age, the insurance company just isn't interested in modifications.
He did however mention that back in the good old days (when where I live was fields apparently!) that he used to use finned oil filters just to get a bit more than the sump fins just cooling the oil. He said they were covers that would slide over the filter just to help dissipate heat.
To my question, does a similar product exist for today's more modern spin-on filters which my 1992 car uses? If not, could anyone suggest ideas for how to fabricate something similar?
I thought perhaps extending a water hose past the filter, heatsinking it somehow? Just a rambling in my head!
Any input wanted! Cheers!
If you can find some with the right ID, and fins that fit in the space available, maybe with some cutting to help, a length of gilled tube might do.I was discussing my little ol' mini with an old engineer pal of mine, and we got onto how my oil temp rises alot on motorway stretches (like you do).
He mentioned you could go down the oil cooler route but that's alot of commitment for cruising down the motorway every few weeks. Plus at the moment with my age, the insurance company just isn't interested in modifications.
He did however mention that back in the good old days (when where I live was fields apparently!) that he used to use finned oil filters just to get a bit more than the sump fins just cooling the oil. He said they were covers that would slide over the filter just to help dissipate heat.
To my question, does a similar product exist for today's more modern spin-on filters which my 1992 car uses? If not, could anyone suggest ideas for how to fabricate something similar?
I thought perhaps extending a water hose past the filter, heatsinking it somehow? Just a rambling in my head!
Any input wanted! Cheers!
You'd have to find a way to retain it but that shouldn't be hard.
WhoseGeneration said:
rawkyjnr said:
HI There,
I was discussing my little ol' mini with an old engineer pal of mine, and we got onto how my oil temp rises alot on motorway stretches (like you do).
He mentioned you could go down the oil cooler route but that's alot of commitment for cruising down the motorway every few weeks. Plus at the moment with my age, the insurance company just isn't interested in modifications.
He did however mention that back in the good old days (when where I live was fields apparently!) that he used to use finned oil filters just to get a bit more than the sump fins just cooling the oil. He said they were covers that would slide over the filter just to help dissipate heat.
To my question, does a similar product exist for today's more modern spin-on filters which my 1992 car uses? If not, could anyone suggest ideas for how to fabricate something similar?
I thought perhaps extending a water hose past the filter, heatsinking it somehow? Just a rambling in my head!
Any input wanted! Cheers!
If you can find some with the right ID, and fins that fit in the space available, maybe with some cutting to help, a length of gilled tube might do.I was discussing my little ol' mini with an old engineer pal of mine, and we got onto how my oil temp rises alot on motorway stretches (like you do).
He mentioned you could go down the oil cooler route but that's alot of commitment for cruising down the motorway every few weeks. Plus at the moment with my age, the insurance company just isn't interested in modifications.
He did however mention that back in the good old days (when where I live was fields apparently!) that he used to use finned oil filters just to get a bit more than the sump fins just cooling the oil. He said they were covers that would slide over the filter just to help dissipate heat.
To my question, does a similar product exist for today's more modern spin-on filters which my 1992 car uses? If not, could anyone suggest ideas for how to fabricate something similar?
I thought perhaps extending a water hose past the filter, heatsinking it somehow? Just a rambling in my head!
Any input wanted! Cheers!
You'd have to find a way to retain it but that shouldn't be hard.
I'll see what I can find in the hardware shops of newcastle!
bazking69 said:
My personal opinion is that you should save the few quid and forget about something that will make a nominal and pointless difference.
Well there's only one way to find out I would say! I worked out I think that 12-13% of the engine's oil is in the filter at any one time, so I don't think I'd be going too far wrong if I can cool 1/8th of it by a few degrees whilst on these motorway stretches.
The smooth filter at the moment I think is a wasted opportunity!
rawkyjnr said:
WhoseGeneration said:
rawkyjnr said:
HI There,
I was discussing my little ol' mini with an old engineer pal of mine, and we got onto how my oil temp rises alot on motorway stretches (like you do).
He mentioned you could go down the oil cooler route but that's alot of commitment for cruising down the motorway every few weeks. Plus at the moment with my age, the insurance company just isn't interested in modifications.
He did however mention that back in the good old days (when where I live was fields apparently!) that he used to use finned oil filters just to get a bit more than the sump fins just cooling the oil. He said they were covers that would slide over the filter just to help dissipate heat.
To my question, does a similar product exist for today's more modern spin-on filters which my 1992 car uses? If not, could anyone suggest ideas for how to fabricate something similar?
I thought perhaps extending a water hose past the filter, heatsinking it somehow? Just a rambling in my head!
Any input wanted! Cheers!
If you can find some with the right ID, and fins that fit in the space available, maybe with some cutting to help, a length of gilled tube might do.I was discussing my little ol' mini with an old engineer pal of mine, and we got onto how my oil temp rises alot on motorway stretches (like you do).
He mentioned you could go down the oil cooler route but that's alot of commitment for cruising down the motorway every few weeks. Plus at the moment with my age, the insurance company just isn't interested in modifications.
He did however mention that back in the good old days (when where I live was fields apparently!) that he used to use finned oil filters just to get a bit more than the sump fins just cooling the oil. He said they were covers that would slide over the filter just to help dissipate heat.
To my question, does a similar product exist for today's more modern spin-on filters which my 1992 car uses? If not, could anyone suggest ideas for how to fabricate something similar?
I thought perhaps extending a water hose past the filter, heatsinking it somehow? Just a rambling in my head!
Any input wanted! Cheers!
You'd have to find a way to retain it but that shouldn't be hard.
I'll see what I can find in the hardware shops of newcastle!
rawkyjnr said:
bazking69 said:
My personal opinion is that you should save the few quid and forget about something that will make a nominal and pointless difference.
Well there's only one way to find out I would say! I worked out I think that 12-13% of the engine's oil is in the filter at any one time, so I don't think I'd be going too far wrong if I can cool 1/8th of it by a few degrees whilst on these motorway stretches.
The smooth filter at the moment I think is a wasted opportunity!
If you fit the cooler, you can eliminate the increased drag by removing the oil altogether, and replacing it with nitrogen.
And fold the back seat down.
You consider plumbing in a standard-ish Mocal oil cooler to be a lot of work, but are happy to consider fabricating (at a fair amount of time/labour) something to do the same job less efficiently?
As above, oil needs to be at the right temperature. So overcooling it can be just as bad. "most" Front mount coolers have a thermostat in them to help.
As above, oil needs to be at the right temperature. So overcooling it can be just as bad. "most" Front mount coolers have a thermostat in them to help.
rawkyjnr said:
Plus at the moment with my age, the insurance company just isn't interested in modifications.
Well I can understand an insyrance company getting the arse for fitting an intercooler, but not an OIL COOLER.............fit one with a built in theromstat and you wond get coldoil issues.
what ever you do dont tell insurance company you are using non OEM air in the tyres............
I am of the thinking of having the factory system working as efficiently as possible, before adding oil coolers which increase the strain on the valvetrain as the oil pump is ran off it. I defy an engineer to tell me that logic isn't the right one!
I'd rather make the original design work more efficiently before changing it. Plus I'm only looking to keep the oil a few degrees cooler on my occasional motorway stints.
I'd rather make the original design work more efficiently before changing it. Plus I'm only looking to keep the oil a few degrees cooler on my occasional motorway stints.
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