Non opening door, MOT failure?

[Andy_J_G]

Tried this elsewhere but no replies, so he goes again; my old Xantia is due its MOT but the offside rear door lock is broken and the door cannot be opened from inside out outside, is the an MOT failure?
Cheers

[edo]

I dont know legally the answer to this, but I'd say he was in with a good chance they wont open every door?!

[edo]

"Both front doors must be openable from the inside and outside and all doors must latch securely."

Well I suppose it is secure?!

http://www.motester.co.uk/CarOwnersGuidetoTheMOT/W...

[snuffle]

Should be ok.
eta. they will probably open all doors to check the seat belts. mention the non opening door to the tester, its beter to be honest before hand rather than pss the tester off by having him waste his time trying to open the door.

Edited by snuffle on Tuesday 31st August 20:19

[manic47]

We had the same problem with my wifes car, they told us it would fail because of it.
I guess people need to be able to get of the car in a hurry should a fire or accident occur.

[Tunku]

If it is a rear door you will be ok


Reason for failure "a driver's or FRONT passenger's door cannot be opened from both inside and outside the vehicle from the relevant control in each case.


From here - http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual_620.htm

[Rich_W]

It's a fail.

BUT the tester "should" pick it up on this pre-checks. And not actually test the car.

[Hereward]

My old Golf had a rear door that could only be opened from the inside but passed an MOT in this state.

[Tunku]

Rich_W said:

It's a fail.

BUT the tester "should" pick it up on this pre-checks. And not actually test the car.

Pre-check? An MOT tester tests the car, a Garage may do a "pre-check" and a locked rear door is not tested.

[Herman Toothrot]

Fail, I wanted to weld closed the doors on my old track car, it was a cabrio so could just step out but on checking with MOT place they said the drivers has to open and the passengers if they have shut lines so appear to be able to be opened then they must open. If I completely smoothed it all and removed handles then he said it would then be ok, couldn't be bothered with that.

[Aviz]

Herman Toothrot said:

Fail, I wanted to weld closed the doors on my old track car, it was a cabrio so could just step out but on checking with MOT place they said the drivers has to open and the passengers if they have shut lines so appear to be able to be opened then they must open. If I completely smoothed it all and removed handles then he said it would then be ok, couldn't be bothered with that.

there you go.. get a tub of p38 slapped over it then.

Edited by Aviz on Tuesday 31st August 23:10

[MadRob6]

Or gaffer tape. What shut line?

[salubrious]

Hi,

It is not an mot failure.

However it is a bit of a quirky one, because a rear door not capable of being opened should be found on a pre-check and the car should not be tested at all.

A lot of testers dont bother with pre-checks (they should) so it's going to come down to how knowledgeable the testers are in your area.

[NicDale]

Took a 3 door mk2 Golf for an MOT last week, failed on door handle not opening from outside.

[mcford]

It wouldn't get as far as the pass/fail stage as it is grounds for refusal to test the vehicle.

http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/doitonline/b...

The first manual on the page, appendix 3, section 1g.

Apart from the access problem, the tester can't assess the structure around the door aperture for corrosion.

[snuffle]

mcford said:

It wouldn't get as far as the pass/fail stage as it is grounds for refusal to test the vehicle.

http://www.transportoffice.gov.uk/crt/doitonline/b...

The first manual on the page, appendix 3, section 1g.

Apart from the access problem, the tester can't assess the structure around the door aperture for corrosion.

yes according to the manual the tester CAN refuse to test and or fail, he doesn't have to fail it though.
hence above comments are all true. it could pass, it could fail. its all down how generous the tester is feeling.

Edited by snuffle on Wednesday 1st September 19:12

[Rich_W]

Tunku said:

Rich_W said:

It's a fail.

BUT the tester "should" pick it up on this pre-checks. And not actually test the car.

Pre-check? An MOT tester tests the car, a Garage may do a "pre-check" and a locked rear door is not tested.

Do you have a Smartcard? I do. If you do, maybe I should refer you to the "Grounds for refusal to carry out a test" part of the book.

[Andy_J_G]

Decided to pull it out of the MOT and get a new lock of Ebay, thanks for the replies.