Recommend me a winter tyre
Recommend me a winter tyre
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GreigM

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6,740 posts

278 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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I know there's been lots of threads on this and I've read them all, but want a recommendation based on my particular needs. I've got a spare set of wheels so happy to change over when the temperature is appropriate, so an "all-season" not necessary and would happily sacrifice summer capability for better winter handling.

Main conditions I want to improve are the about freezing, greasy (from salt residue etc), damp roads which make up 90% of winter driving. Secondary consideration would be wet performance, with some benefit on ice and then the occasional snow (not expecting a repeat of last winter, but some better snow performance would be a benefit). Where I live the temp will be <7C max for a good 3 months at least, but generally doesnt dip much below -2 to -3.

So the main question - for these kind of conditions am I still better with a "full" winter tyre like the wintrac extreme, or am I better with an "all season" like the quatrac or Nokian WRG2?

I dont want to buy the "full" winters to find they are only better in the 2 days of snow I get on average!?

J-Skid

1,099 posts

287 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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I put Nokian WR's on our Volvo V70 - they last ages and have good levels of grip.

When the snow came earlier this year they gave me a lot more grip and control.

HellDiver

5,708 posts

211 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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I recently got 4 Dunlop Graspic DS3 which are one level down from studded.

I think I may have gone a bit too far - the Wintrac Xtreme I had on the Lancer was more than adequate last year.


205jsy

401 posts

203 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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What sort of price are winter tyres compared to normal tyres? Im heading to the south of France this December and i need a set really.

GreigM

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6,740 posts

278 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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205jsy said:
What sort of price are winter tyres compared to normal tyres? Im heading to the south of France this December and i need a set really.
Not much difference really - depends on brand etc, Nokians seem quite reasonable.....

Monkeylegend

29,221 posts

260 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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Do they tend to be noisier?

jon-

16,534 posts

245 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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This should help you decide.

FWIW, while the Continental WinterContact TS 830 P is without a doubt the tyre to have having won pretty much every winter tyre test I've read, any winter tyre will be miles better than the summer tyres around you in really cold conditions.

GreigM

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6,740 posts

278 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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looks like I can get the Conti's for less than £90 a corner....might give em a try....

Chris71

21,549 posts

271 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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Monkeylegend said:
Do they tend to be noisier?
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And what are the other trade-offs compared to summer tyres? I am tempted by a set, but can't really be arsed to buy spare wheels (and store them) for a car I might not keep much longer - how bad would winter tyres be on normal roads if I kept them on after the spring?

HellDiver

5,708 posts

211 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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As I mentioned elsewhere, Bridgestone are bringing out a UK specific all-season tyre in October. It's a winter pattern, with a hard compound so it'll not melt during summer.

GreigM

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6,740 posts

278 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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HellDiver said:
As I mentioned elsewhere, Bridgestone are bringing out a UK specific all-season tyre in October. It's a winter pattern, with a hard compound so it'll not melt during summer.
Somewhat like the Nokian WR G2 then? Although I'd rather have a better performing dedicated winter if there is a big performance difference in the cold/slippy stuff.

I am tempted by the Nokians also, as they are £25 a corner cheaper than some of the "full" winter tyres but still get good reviews.

Bonefish Blues

36,486 posts

252 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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GreigM said:
HellDiver said:
As I mentioned elsewhere, Bridgestone are bringing out a UK specific all-season tyre in October. It's a winter pattern, with a hard compound so it'll not melt during summer.
Somewhat like the Nokian WR G2 then? Although I'd rather have a better performing dedicated winter if there is a big performance difference in the cold/slippy stuff.

I am tempted by the Nokians also, as they are £25 a corner cheaper than some of the "full" winter tyres but still get good reviews.
These are my choice for the MX5 this winter too - and c£20 a corner cheaper than the Uniroyals on there at the moment.

jon-

16,534 posts

245 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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GreigM said:
HellDiver said:
As I mentioned elsewhere, Bridgestone are bringing out a UK specific all-season tyre in October. It's a winter pattern, with a hard compound so it'll not melt during summer.
Somewhat like the Nokian WR G2 then? Although I'd rather have a better performing dedicated winter if there is a big performance difference in the cold/slippy stuff.

I am tempted by the Nokians also, as they are £25 a corner cheaper than some of the "full" winter tyres but still get good reviews.
I'm not convinced about the new A001 - traditionally all season tyres have been a poor compromise.

Technically the WRG2 is a winter tyre, it's just more dry/wet bias than snow. As we get extremely limited snow in the UK it's probably one of the best tyres for this climate.

Whitean3

2,197 posts

227 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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I can highly reccommend Vredestein Wintracs. Have them on my 911; they have lasted well, they grip well, the tread design looks cool and they are reasonably priced.

And for the poster who asked about noise-
Winter tyres are bit noisier than regular tyres- you get more tyre "roar"

bramley

1,692 posts

237 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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I have the WRG2s and I'm very pleased with them. I have them on a rwd auto.

SVS

3,824 posts

300 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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I've used Quatrac 3's all year round in Blighty. Highly recommended thumbup

Superb in all manner of winter conditions, ample grip in summer, great in the wet, quiet. Reckon they are tough to beat for UK road conditions.

The only downside to these high-performance All Season tyres seems to be the lack of sizes, i.e you can't get 'em for 18+ inch wheels.

Busa_Rush

6,930 posts

280 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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Nokian WR G2's here too on my V70 commuter. Were exceptionally good in the freezing conditions and snow, and still perfectly usable in summer, I've still got them on the car.

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

193 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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I use Toyo snowproxes on my 540i Touring and they transform the car !

Chris71

21,549 posts

271 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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Looks like a win for the WR G2s so far... My Kumhos were faintly commical (even by normal summer tyre standards) last year and to cap it off I've pretty much worn them out in a year of normal driving, so I think I'll change in the next month or so.

5potTurbo

13,679 posts

197 months

Wednesday 1st September 2010
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GreigM said:
looks like I can get the Conti's for less than £90 a corner....might give em a try....
I have ContiWinterSport on my car on 17" rims in Winter. Looking at your profile, presumably at ^^ that price these are for the Mazda6? It's worth checking out tyre reviews that are listed against the tyres on, for example, riefendirekt.de , which I think is the German equivalent of mytyres.co.uk ?

In 12 years of routinely changing to winter tyres for 5 months/year, and across the dozen or so cars I've had in that time, the only "duffers" I have used were Michelin Alpin.