11's and Donuts.
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Acheron

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643 posts

193 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Ok, just a bit of guidance here, its probably me doing it all wrong but yeah;

How does one get a nice lovely 11 or Donut (or even patrial drift for that matter)?

Ive got a 2002 318i touring (i think here les my problem). Even with the anti-skid switched off, from a standing start, i can get the modest of smallest screech and dont appear to lose any traction. Donuts are a big no-go as there's loads of grip and it wont do anything unless its on loose gravel.

Is it because im in an underpowered estate with 16' wheels and 140k on the clock? Or am i just doing it wrong?

kambites

71,468 posts

250 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Put it in in first, stationary, clutch down. Floor the throttle then when the revs hit the redline, slip your foot off the side of the clutch. hehe

MGZRod

8,176 posts

205 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Acheron said:
Ok, just a bit of guidance here, its probably me doing it all wrong but yeah;

How does one get a nice lovely 11 or Donut (or even patrial drift for that matter)?

Ive got a 2002 318i touring (i think here les my problem). Even with the anti-skid switched off, from a standing start, i can get the modest of smallest screech and dont appear to lose any traction. Donuts are a big no-go as there's loads of grip and it wont do anything unless its on loose gravel.

Is it because im in an underpowered estate with 16' wheels and 140k on the clock? Or am i just doing it wrong?
Power, LSD (not the drug, though it may help...) and a severe hatred for your clutch for 11's.

Adam_W

1,098 posts

229 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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I imagine its an open diff on that so no chance of an 11

kambites

71,468 posts

250 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Adam_W said:
I imagine its an open diff on that so no chance of an 11
Should manage a 1 though.

Cotty

42,226 posts

313 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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SDxsi

2,747 posts

201 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Adam_W said:
I imagine its an open diff on that so no chance of an 11
This. You can do a 1, turn around and line it back up to do the other 1 though biggrin

205jsy

401 posts

203 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Find a gravel/dirt carpark. You will have no trouble geting the wheels to spin there.

al1991

4,552 posts

209 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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205jsy said:
Find a gravel/dirt carpark. You will have no trouble geting the wheels to spin there.
If you don't mind stonechips

XJR500bhp

1,205 posts

239 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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I would strongly recomend not trying it an a 318i e46. First of all you say that asc is off, but did you hold the button down. On an e46 hold the asc button down for over 6 seconds or so and a secondary light comes on, i beleive this emans everythign is dis-engaged.

It will not do 11's though

Acheron

Original Poster:

643 posts

193 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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XJR500bhp said:
I would strongly recomend not trying it an a 318i e46. First of all you say that asc is off, but did you hold the button down. On an e46 hold the asc button down for over 6 seconds or so and a secondary light comes on, i beleive this emans everythign is dis-engaged.

It will not do 11's though
Done that, light in the middle comes on and handbrake warning light goes yellow.

XJR500bhp

1,205 posts

239 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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That's it, But as stated a 318i just doesn't have the grunt, unless its wet where as discussed your diff would let you down, and it would probaly be pretty hairy.

MGZRod

8,176 posts

205 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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kambites said:
Adam_W said:
I imagine its an open diff on that so no chance of an 11
Should manage a 1 though.
Or a full stop!

Brian McGee

1,597 posts

206 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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As mentioned above, no LSD no chavtastic fun!

Acheron

Original Poster:

643 posts

193 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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frown

Just gonna have to ge tthat VXR8 after all then :P

LuS1fer

43,508 posts

274 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Ask yourself what the point is FIRST.

MGZRod

8,176 posts

205 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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LuS1fer said:
Ask yourself what the point is FIRST.
Coming from a mustang owner, something wrong with you wink

Acheron

Original Poster:

643 posts

193 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Theres always a point :P

aww999

2,078 posts

290 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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Sometimes open diff cars can be easier to get to grips with. In the dry you're not going to have enough power for easy sliding, but in the wet find a big empty car park and try launching it hard with a fair bit of steering lock on, like a start from an imaginary T-junction. If it spins a wheel up you'll get a bit of a waggle from the back end but with minimal steering correction required. With an LSD, both rear wheels will spin so the back of the car can go properly sideways and you will need to have a vague idea what to do with the steering wheel.

It's not the best chariot for sideways hooligan antics, but that doesn't stop you having fun trying smile

slomax

7,267 posts

221 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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you need a Bentley Napier, lots of balls and a piece of private Rd. thumbup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Zq-1BfDtxM