P/xing a car with a higher value than the one you're buying
P/xing a car with a higher value than the one you're buying
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Funk

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27,652 posts

238 months

Thursday 2nd September 2010
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I'm just trying to work out something as I've not done it before. If you're part-exchanging a car worth about £9k and looking at a car worth about £7k, would a dealer give you the £2k difference? I only ask as a relative is looking to chop in a massive 5-series for something smaller for a town runabout which will be worth less than the BM. Doesn't want the hassle of selling it privately, despite me pointing out they might get more for it than a dealer will offer.

I can't see why it wouldn't work, but I have a feeling there might be a snag somewhere. And yes, I'm sure the dealer will try and offer £7k for the BM!

Cheers folks.

Flintstone

8,644 posts

276 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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Find out what the dealer offers, we'll buy it for that, sell it on and split the winnings.


Deal?

Edited by Flintstone on Friday 3rd September 00:01

va1o

16,113 posts

236 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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Your best bet will be to sell it to a BMW garage or somewhere like webuyanycar.com

Edited by va1o on Friday 3rd September 00:05

theundecided

225 posts

202 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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I attempted to do this, but it usually ends up in one of the following situations:

Either the dealer assumes that you can't afford to run the big car and therefore decides to offer you peanuts for it.

Or

The dealer continually tries to talk you into a more expensive model, so the £2k you were hoping to get back would probably end up nearer £500.

It's better to ring a load of dealers and punt the car on this way. Then buy the new car with cash.

va1o

16,113 posts

236 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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Also (and apologies if this is stating the obvious) remember the car your buying will be at retail price, and the money you get for the BMW will be a trade price.

I would guess the car your buying will have a trade price of £5k - £6k, and the BMW would retail for £10k - £11k. Dealers have to make a profit somewhere.

Flintstone

8,644 posts

276 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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His 'what' buying?

Funk

Original Poster:

27,652 posts

238 months

Friday 3rd September 2010
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Yeah, webuyanycar have offered about £9k for it (I'm assuming a dealer will be similar-ish). They're after something small for infrequent town trips now, the '5 is not really the car for that. I've suggested something like a Fiesta or Focus which are plentiful, and it must be petrol and auto. Seen one for £7k at a dealer that I've been asked to go up and look at with them.

Just wanted to know how to approach the dealer with it.

Funk

Original Poster:

27,652 posts

238 months

Saturday 4th September 2010
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Hmm. Been out looking at other cars today and webuyanycar actually offered the best price. Took it in for a proper valuation today and they say the HPI check shows it as a parallel import..

Is there any way of proving this as they've dropped £500 off the price for it. I'm surprised as the car came from a BMW main dealer and nothing was mentioned about this when the car was purchased from them..

Are WBAC trying it on..? What's the likelihood of getting something back from the dealer if it really is a parallel import?

Edited by Funk on Saturday 4th September 17:48

theironduke

6,995 posts

217 months

Saturday 4th September 2010
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Funk said:
Hmm. Been out looking at other cars today and webuyanycar actually offered the best price. Took it in for a proper valuation today and they say the HPI check shows it as a parallel import..

Is there any way of proving this as they've dropped £500 off the price for it. I'm surprised as the car came from a BMW main dealer and nothing was mentioned about this when the car was purchased from them..

Are WBAC trying it on..? What's the likelihood of getting something back from the dealer if it really is a parallel import?

Edited by Funk on Saturday 4th September 17:48
what's a parallel import?

va1o

16,113 posts

236 months

Saturday 4th September 2010
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Parallel import would mean its an EU import but the spec is same as UK I think

CatherineJ

9,586 posts

272 months

Saturday 4th September 2010
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Was it an Approved Used Car? I didn't "think" that they could sell an import as an approved used car, a bit like Porsche won't supposedly retail secondhand one of the Malta imports that you can often buy brand new from an independent.

va1o

16,113 posts

236 months

Saturday 4th September 2010
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CatherineJ said:
Was it an Approved Used Car? I didn't "think" that they could sell an import as an approved used car, a bit like Porsche won't supposedly retail secondhand one of the Malta imports that you can often buy brand new from an independent.
Oh they do. VW where selling a batch of imported ex-rental Golfs and Jettas from the republic of Ireland earlier this year. Non UK-Spec with different wheels and no ESP, and for sale under the 'approved used' scheme.

Also seem to remember a well known large Scottish dealer importing a number of nearly-new Nissan Tiidas into the country and offering them for sale, when they are not even officially available in the UK...

Edited by va1o on Saturday 4th September 18:18

TonyRPH

13,539 posts

197 months

Saturday 4th September 2010
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Funk said:
Hmm. Been out looking at other cars today and webuyanycar actually offered the best price. Took it in for a proper valuation today and they say the HPI check shows it as a parallel import..

Is there any way of proving this as they've dropped £500 off the price for it. I'm surprised as the car came from a BMW main dealer and nothing was mentioned about this when the car was purchased from them..

Are WBAC trying it on..? What's the likelihood of getting something back from the dealer if it really is a parallel import?

Edited by Funk on Saturday 4th September 17:48
Not to name and shame but... I've heard this about the place you mention..

A rep will come and view the car, and find every single tiny fault with it, then knock the price down rock bottom.

Try selling here on PH first, give it a couple of weeks, and then punt it off to the highest offer from a dealer.

Or send it to auction, but ensure all paperwork (history / MOTs / etc.) is present and correct (and available for viewing).


footsoldier

2,297 posts

221 months

Saturday 4th September 2010
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I almost sold a car to wbac.com in same situation. Until they phoned me about 2hrs before inspection to start chipping price, even though car was exactly as described. I didn't even get as far as the appointment

Rach*

8,824 posts

245 months

Saturday 4th September 2010
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Thought you'd decided to chop for a Zed there matey hehe






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Fribbens

3 posts

192 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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Heya there, just a quick question as you are in my area, do u know of any where good where i could get a few performance mods made? and also i know this is probally a sill question but how do i post a new forum?

Thanks,

Ollie

tim the pool man

5,975 posts

246 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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I had tried to sell my Monaro for about 6 months privately, no luck. A dealer called wanting to buy it, I was pleasantly surprised how close we got to a deal but they didn't have the right car for me.

Shopped it around all the Holden dealers in Perth over the next week and traded it for a 2 year newer Commodore (only a V6) and $17K cash back thumbup

If I could have sold it privately for what I wanted I could have bought privately cheaper, and come out maybe $2K better, but I couldn't so I was happy.

BTW I was asking $37K for the Monaro, dealer then put it on the lot at $43K... yes that is more than they were new in England rolleyes

TonyRPH

13,539 posts

197 months

Sunday 5th September 2010
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Fribbens said:
Heya there, just a quick question as you are in my area, do u know of any where good where i could get a few performance mods made? and also i know this is probally a sill question but how do i post a new forum?

Thanks,

Ollie
Select the forum you want to post in e.g. "General Gassing" or "Reader's Cars" or "BMW".

Then click on "Start Topic" at the top left of the page.

Type a title for your topic, then click in the larger box and type your message.

Click "Submit".





Edited by TonyRPH on Sunday 5th September 09:33