Front splitters and spoilers
Front splitters and spoilers
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freenote

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805 posts

197 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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Having a discussion at work as to what the difference is between a front splitter and front spoiler. I can't believe it only just occurred to me to ask the eminently knowledgeable folk on PH!!

So what are the differences in looks and function?

kambites

71,466 posts

250 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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I'm probably wrong, but by my understanding of the term, there is no such thing as a front spoiler because you don't want to spoil the airflow over the front of the car. You can have a front splitter and a front wing, but I wouldn't have thought a front spoiler would serve any purpose.

freenote

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Friday 10th September 2010
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I'm pretty sure there are front spoilers on sale, but I may be wrong.

kambites

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Friday 10th September 2010
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freenote said:
I'm pretty sure there are front spoilers on sale, but I may be wrong.
I don't deny that people sell things that they call front spoilers. I'm suggesting that they're probably wrong. smile

freenote

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Friday 10th September 2010
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kambites said:
freenote said:
I'm pretty sure there are front spoilers on sale, but I may be wrong.
I don't deny that people sell things that they call front spoilers. I'm suggesting that they're probably wrong. smile
Well it is difficult to see the difference between the two when companies advertise them. Maybe they're all splitters then.

CypherP

4,451 posts

221 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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All this can be found on Wiki..

Wiki said:
Front Splitter - As the front of the car slows down the air without a diffuser, this is the ideal place for an inlet. A splitter is commonly used here, serving to increase the amount of downforce at the front of the car. The airstream is brought to stagnation above the splitter by an air dam, causing an area of high pressure. Below the splitter, the air is redirected away from the stagnation zone and is accelerated, causing the pressure to drop. This, combined with the high pressure over the splitter creates downforce. The larger the area of the splitter, the more downforce is generated. In most closed-wheel race cars, the underside of the splitter smoothly integrates with the undertray, creating one large flat plane that is driven by the rear diffuser.
Wiki said:
Front Spoiler - Front spoilers, found beneath the bumper, are mainly used to direct air flow away from the tires to the underbody where the drag coefficient is less. Rear spoilers, which modify the transition in shape between the roof and the rear and the trunk and the rear, act to minimize the turbulence at the rear of the vehicle.
I'm sure Wiki isn't 100% correct, but provides a fairly good description of what each does.

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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Splitter, spoiler, air dam it's all the same thing as far as I'm aware, unless you've specific examples?

Might not be technically correct but in marketing terms, if you want to sell something then you may as well go with what people recognise which in this case spoiler means spoiler=splitter=air dam.

Similar to wing mirrors not being wing mirrors anymore but door mirrors. The message gets across.

ETA turns out I'm wrong. Quelle surprise..

Edited by DrTre on Friday 10th September 15:32

kambites

71,466 posts

250 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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I think a splitters job is to split the airflow so that that going under the car travels in a nice smooth uninterrupted fashion under the splitter and that the air going over the splitter hits the front of the car, generating a high pressure zone over the splitter pushing it down into the road.

A wing is an inverted aerofoil that generates downforce in clean air rather than using the pressure built up by another surface.

A spoiler is an edge designed to sheer the airflow away from a smooth surface cleanly, rather than letting the airflow "stick" to the surface. You only want to sheer the airflow if the surface is falling so the air sticking to it would generate a low pressure region over it. At the front of the car, surfaces tend to be rising so a spoiler wouldn't do anything.

CypherP

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Friday 10th September 2010
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kambites said:
I think a splitters job is to split the airflow so that that going under the car travels in a nice smooth uninterrupted fashion under the splitter and that the air going over the splitter hits the front of the car, generating a high pressure zone over the splitter pushing it down into the road.

A wing is an inverted aerofoil that generates downforce in clean air rather than using the pressure built up by another surface.

A spoiler is an edge designed to sheer the airflow away from a smooth surface cleanly, rather than letting the airflow "stick" to the surface. You only want to sheer the airflow if the surface is falling so the air sticking to it would generate a low pressure region over it. At the front of the car, surfaces tend to be rising so a spoiler wouldn't do anything.
Do you have a dog named Bingo? smile

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

208 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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Splitters!



dvs_dave

9,040 posts

254 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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Look at a group B rally car (eg Metro 6R4) or F1 car for examples of a front spoiler/wing. They activley produce downforce.

Look at a DTM car or the Gumpert Apollo for good examples of front splitters. They reduce front end lift by separating (splitting) the high pressure wave at the front of the car so reducing the build up of high pressure under the car which results in lift.

freenote

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Friday 10th September 2010
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Well I appreciate the replies but I have to admit I'm more than a little confused.

I'm now thinking a spoiler is shorter (bottom to top) then a splitter.

freenote

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Friday 10th September 2010
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dvs_dave said:
Look at a group B rally car (eg Metro 6R4) or F1 car for examples of a front spoiler/wing. They activley produce downforce.

Look at a DTM car or the Gumpert Apollo for good examples of front splitters. They reduce front end lift by separating (splitting) the high pressure wave at the front of the car so reducing the build up of high pressure under the car which results in lift.
So that would suggest I've got it the wrong way round :s

kambites

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250 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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dibbers006 said:
Front Spoiler
No, that's a front wing, albeit a rather odd one. hehe

coley20

2,965 posts

220 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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dibbers006 said:
Front Spoiler

That front spoiler actually looks like it would be lifting the front, not pushing it down

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

208 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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dibbers006 said:
kambites said:
dibbers006 said:
Front Spoiler
No, that's a front wing, albeit a rather odd one. hehe
I agree... except in all Countach literature it appears to be called a 'spoiler' confused

Irelephantly, was it not for Pedestrian Safety anyways or is that an Urban Myth?
On what planet could a device that appears to be designed to sever a person's legs just below the knee be justified on safety grounds?

Anyone would think it was produced in Italy/The EU

oh, wait....

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

221 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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Front Spoiler: forces air upwards, creating downforce by "Spoiling the Airflow"




Front Splitter: Splits the air going under the car, Reducing the volume of air under the car, stopping front end lift



monsween

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192 months

Friday 10th September 2010
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Front Spoiler