I want to buy a neighbours trade-in...advice
I want to buy a neighbours trade-in...advice
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jac-in-a-box

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259 posts

267 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Got some new neighbours and just having a chat to him he tells me that he's putting two cars up for a trade in with a local dealer. Values have been agreed and the deal goes ahead on Friday.

One of the cars (Audi TT) is quite fancied by Mrs J-i-a-B and I asked him if he would be prepared to sell her the car at the value he's beeen offered in PeX...he looked a little perplexed and offered to think about. He did and declined, believing he may jeopordise his deal. He did however invite me to come down to the dealer and I could perhaps buy the car from the dealer. I suspect the dealer would be asking a fair chunk more!
The car is apparently going off to auction one the deal is done and the dealer is not an Audi garage.

Wife is pretty keen to get her hands on it and has asked me to contact dealer. I feel a little uneasy doing this...I don't want to be seen dabbling in this guys business.
Am I right to back off?

If for example, the Audi was not available (mech failure / accident damaged)and neighbour trotted off to complete the deal with the value he's been offered in cash would the deal be at risk?

Thoughts appreciatedsmile



Fidgits

17,202 posts

258 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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To be honest, the dealer would normally prefer not to have a trade in - so tell him this and offer him £100 more than the trade in deal, and suggest he chats to the sales guy to see if he would be happy with the cash rather than trade in..

Corpulent Tosser

5,468 posts

274 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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I suspect the guy might get a better deal without the trade in. Get him to ask the dealer maybe ?

edo

16,699 posts

294 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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I suppose if the dealer is raping him and has a buyer lined up for the car, he may be annoyed not to get it, but if the seller checks with the dealer, I am sure he wont have an argument about not getting the car, and getting what he was paying for it instead.

Strangely Brown

15,713 posts

260 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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If the dealer is going to push it out to auction rather than prepare it and put it on the forecourt, then I suspect that he is only interested in getting back as much of the trade-in as he can. I'd wager that he'd be likely to jump at a cash offer rather than have the hassle. Of course, he may prefer your neighbour to sell it you instead and take the cash from your neighbour thereby absolving himself of all responsibility for it.

TommyBuoy

1,298 posts

196 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Your neighbour has agreed a value for the car he is going to buy so in a sense it is wooden dollars to him so should not have an issue.

He just needs to check with the dealer that there would not be an issue with taking cash to the value of the trade in.

kentmotorcompany

2,471 posts

239 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Why dont you offer your a neighbour a bit more money than the dealer is offering in PX.

If the price is a true trade value, you will still be getting the car for far better value than you could anywhere else.

I would have thought £2-300 extra would be enough for him to make the effort to get his original deal revised.

He gets a few £ more and you get an excellent value for money car. Win win.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

234 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Can you ask the neighbour to ask the dealer if he would take the cash value of the part-ex instead of the car whilst maintaining the same deal?

Greenpis

302 posts

203 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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If the Dealer is going to send the Audi to auction, then I would expect removing the part ex for the equivalent cash value shouldn't cause a problem. May even be more attractive as it removes some of the aggro/risk for the dealer of putting it through the auction.

However,when I part ex'd my focus (6 yrs old & 16k miles)for the RRS, they told me the focus would go to a Ford Dealer in the group, as they were JLR only, and they'd get a valuation from that Dealer.

Popped into the Dealer's a week after completing the deal, and my focus was in the car park and spotlessly clean, was filthy when I part ex'd.

Asked the salesman, why the focus was still in the car park and hadn't gone to the other dealer yet. He replied 'Well it's such a good example with low mileage, one of the fellas here had it for his wife'!

Typical Salesman, he didn't seem that impressed with it when he agreed the part ex value, though I was happy with the original valuation.

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

228 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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I suspect your neighbour has been sold his new car with the Audi in the deal and believes that the Audi is making the deal sweeter for him, I would offer him a little more for the car and suggest politely that the dealer may offer him a better deal if he goes with cash. The idea of not having a PX but cash is punted by WBAC.com as one of the reasons to use them and not to PX so it isn't a secret that lots of dealers prefer cash unless they need the stock.


Jasandjules

72,588 posts

258 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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hornetrider said:
Can you ask the neighbour to ask the dealer if he would take the cash value of the part-ex instead of the car whilst maintaining the same deal?
This.

Or simply call the dealer and say you have Audi TT Reg ... coming in part ex this Friday and you'd like to buy it Friday and drive it home - and will offer Part ex price + £200...

grgrgray

790 posts

197 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Maybe he doesn't want the hassle of issues with a neighbour after a car he sold them goes wrong possibly. Or he knows that their are things that need fixing?? just a thought.

jac-in-a-box

Original Poster:

259 posts

267 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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grgrgray said:
Maybe he doesn't want the hassle of issues with a neighbour after a car he sold them goes wrong possibly. Or he knows that their are things that need fixing?? just a thought.
Indeed a possibility which hadn't occured to me! Not that I would hound him if there was - quite prepared to buy as seen.

For everyone else, thanks for your advice...it's all pretty much along the lines I was thinking. Too late for him to re-negotiate his deal I'd think, it's all very much tied up from the sounds of it.
I simpy wanted to give him the PeX value in cash and be done with it... I'll give him a gentle try again this evening, if that fails I'll try a direct approach to the dealer.

Finally, anyone in the know trade-price-wise...Y reg, 84k, FSH (not all Audi) usual minor chips at front end but unmarked paint, decent tyres, new brakes F&R, interior Alcantara/leather in good cond' £4.2k?
Wife had one when they first came out - problem free. Any weak points to look for at this age/mileage?

Thanks again allsmile

MoonMonkey

2,333 posts

242 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Not sure what problem your neighbour has with this but I did the same thing a few years ago.

Agreed to part ex an Audi A3 against an A4. Dealer offered us £3k for the A3. Family member expressed an interest in the A3 so I sold it to them for the same amount (I'm nice like that). A quick call to the dealer and he was more than happy to save the hassle of a part ex.

edo

16,699 posts

294 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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jac-in-a-box said:
grgrgray said:
Maybe he doesn't want the hassle of issues with a neighbour after a car he sold them goes wrong possibly. Or he knows that their are things that need fixing?? just a thought.
Indeed a possibility which hadn't occured to me! Not that I would hound him if there was - quite prepared to buy as seen.

For everyone else, thanks for your advice...it's all pretty much along the lines I was thinking. Too late for him to re-negotiate his deal I'd think, it's all very much tied up from the sounds of it.
I simpy wanted to give him the PeX value in cash and be done with it... I'll give him a gentle try again this evening, if that fails I'll try a direct approach to the dealer.

Finally, anyone in the know trade-price-wise...Y reg, 84k, FSH (not all Audi) usual minor chips at front end but unmarked paint, decent tyres, new brakes F&R, interior Alcantara/leather in good cond' £4.2k?
Wife had one when they first came out - problem free. Any weak points to look for at this age/mileage?

Thanks again allsmile
Why so desperate to buy an 84,000 mile first off the line 10 year old TT? Is it a 225?


Pferdestarke

7,192 posts

216 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Walk away and get your missus a better example. Don't bow under the pressure from her.


BoRED S2upid

21,047 posts

269 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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The dealer will be over the moon with the cash. Better still try and find out which auction its off to and get yourself a bargin!

jac-in-a-box

Original Poster:

259 posts

267 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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edo said:
Why so desperate to buy an 84,000 mile first off the line 10 year old TT? Is it a 225?
I wouldn't say desperate! For a tidy, seemingly well looked after car, driven lightly by a middle aged woman - rather than boy-racer things, I thought the price was attractive. You think otherwise?

And yes, 225. Look forward to being enlightenedsmile

sleep envy

62,260 posts

278 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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personally if I was your neighbour and declined to sell you my car I'd find it rather odd to see the same car sat on your drive a few weeks later no matter how you went about obtaining it

poo at Paul's

14,610 posts

204 months

Monday 13th September 2010
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Just offer the neighbout £500 more than the trade in. If he wont take that, itproabbly means the car is a duffer and he doesnt want you sticking a load of Leylandi up in the front garden like that nutter in the paper last week!