130 M-Sport Purchase
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edition

Original Poster:

987 posts

219 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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Hi,

Seriously thinking of swapping my A3 3.2 for a 5dr 130 M-Sport.


Just wondering if there are any special things I should be looking out for over and above normal used car items.


Also spec. wise what items are a must?


Thanks in advance!

Ricky_M

6,618 posts

248 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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What items are a must? Amputated legs if you want to sit in the back!

Power steering pumps are common to go on the 1 Series, check if it has been done. Mine went at 60k odd miles, cost around £400 to put right.

PHmember

2,487 posts

200 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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edition said:
what items are a must?!
Cataracts. coffee

edition

Original Poster:

987 posts

219 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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PHmember said:
edition said:
what items are a must?!
Cataracts. coffee
hehe just spat my wine out smile

PHmember

2,487 posts

200 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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rofl

LocoBlade

7,653 posts

285 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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They're not the most spacious in the back and when compared against the immediate competition they're a bit tight, but its not significantly worse than my old Seat Leon (AKA Mk4 Golf), I'm 5'10 and can happily sit in the back of mine with the seat positioned for me driving. If you're over 6ft and need the seat quite a way back then it might be an issue but then the same issue would occur in a lot of compact hatches.

Power steering pumps only applies to pre facelift cars (the ones with the larger reversing light), as FL cars from mid 2007 have electric rather than hydraulic power steering.

www.babybmw.net is a good source of info smile


Ricky_M said:
What items are a must? Amputated legs if you want to sit in the back!

Power steering pumps are common to go on the 1 Series, check if it has been done. Mine went at 60k odd miles, cost around £400 to put right.
Edited by LocoBlade on Tuesday 21st September 21:38

baz1985

3,685 posts

274 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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Brakes (Single permanently shot calipers)/Suspension (inept damping)/ Tyres (run 5h!ts). Cross country your 8P 3.2 is likely to be superior.

edition

Original Poster:

987 posts

219 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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How do you mean shot brakes??

The damping on the Audi isn't great.......... But yes traction is great.

AyBee

11,321 posts

231 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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whistle That it has indicators and they work...apparently they were an option on most models wink

Just kidding biggrin Love the 130i, very quick! Nice choice!

baz1985

3,685 posts

274 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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edition said:
How do you mean shot brakes??

The damping on the Audi isn't great.......... But yes traction is great.
A spirited drive and the brakes will wilt. The factory A3 suspension is also under-damped and oversprung.

Robatr0n

12,362 posts

245 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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baz1985 said:
Brakes (Single permanently shot calipers)/Suspension (inept damping)/ Tyres (run 5h!ts). Cross country your 8P 3.2 is likely to be superior.
You'd be suprised as to just how quickly a 130i can be pedalled across country.

Eddie the Ead

1,697 posts

237 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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baz1985 said:
edition said:
How do you mean shot brakes??

The damping on the Audi isn't great.......... But yes traction is great.
A spirited drive and the brakes will wilt. The factory A3 suspension is also under-damped and oversprung.
WTF!

Have you ever driven a 130i. I've taken mine on track many times and the brakes are superb, better then any other car I've had. It wouldn't piss over an A3 in pure speed terms but it would be far more entertaining. The engines a peach and you actually get some form of feedback from the steering. The only complaint is on undulating road surfaces where the cars rear end can get a little bouncy but this is said to be cured by ditching the runflats.

baz1985

3,685 posts

274 months

Tuesday 21st September 2010
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Eddie the Ead said:
baz1985 said:
edition said:
How do you mean shot brakes??

The damping on the Audi isn't great.......... But yes traction is great.
A spirited drive and the brakes will wilt. The factory A3 suspension is also under-damped and oversprung.
WTF!

Have you ever driven a 130i. I've taken mine on track many times and the brakes are superb, better then any other car I've had. It wouldn't piss over an A3 in pure speed terms but it would be far more entertaining. The engines a peach and you actually get some form of feedback from the steering. The only complaint is on undulating road surfaces where the cars rear end can get a little bouncy but this is said to be cured by ditching the runflats.
Yes, I have driven one (although early 2006- some years back- pre-facelift, the facelift approx week 10 production 2007 onwards had revised suspension etc...so I would guess that it is far superior now). The E87 has much purer driving dynamics....outright handling/steering/throttle response etc...so it is more entertaining. However in damp conditions the A3 will be more effective...undoubetedly the 130 is the better drive.

Kawasicki

14,363 posts

264 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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baz1985 said:
Eddie the Ead said:
baz1985 said:
edition said:
How do you mean shot brakes??

The damping on the Audi isn't great.......... But yes traction is great.
A spirited drive and the brakes will wilt. The factory A3 suspension is also under-damped and oversprung.
WTF!

Have you ever driven a 130i. I've taken mine on track many times and the brakes are superb, better then any other car I've had. It wouldn't piss over an A3 in pure speed terms but it would be far more entertaining. The engines a peach and you actually get some form of feedback from the steering. The only complaint is on undulating road surfaces where the cars rear end can get a little bouncy but this is said to be cured by ditching the runflats.
Yes, I have driven one (although early 2006- some years back- pre-facelift, the facelift approx week 10 production 2007 onwards had revised suspension etc...so I would guess that it is far superior now). The E87 has much purer driving dynamics....outright handling/steering/throttle response etc...so it is more entertaining. However in damp conditions the A3 will be more effective...undoubetedly the 130 is the better drive.
In what sense would an A3 3.2 be more effective on damp roads?

baz1985

3,685 posts

274 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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^^^traction....

Vee

3,109 posts

263 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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baz1985 said:
Brakes (Single permanently shot calipers)/Suspension (inept damping)/ Tyres (run 5h!ts). Cross country your 8P 3.2 is likely to be superior.
Very odd comment !
Bloated front wheel drive v rwd with a great engine.
I'm pretty certain >90% would prefer the 130, even on runflats.

edition

Original Poster:

987 posts

219 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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Cheers for the comments guys.

What colours and specs are the ones I need for future resale......


Can't seem to find any with Nav.... Is it worth holding off for one with it?

edo

16,699 posts

294 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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I'd personally hold out for Navigation. Ours had it. M Sport, and personally Le-Mans Blue or Black for me.

Cracking little cars. We had one for around a year. As said, rear space isnt mahoosive, but still perfectly usable, and plenty of space if you drop the rear seats.

What is your budget?

edo

16,699 posts

294 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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Main dealer car so you get 1 year of proper renewable warranty (another must for me):

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...



2006 BMW 130i 2996 cc M Sport 5-door
Trade Seller: Rybrook Worcester

5 Doors, Manual, Hatchback, Petrol, 37,618 miles, Le Mans Blue, Black Boston Leather, Bluetooth phone prep, Ext. mirrors - folding. auto dimming, Leather interior, Metallic paint, Navigation system Professional, SA3 Pricing Rule for 620 Voice Control, Sun protection glass, M-Aerodynamic Bodystyling I, M Double Spoke Style 208M 7.5Jx18/8Jx18, De-chroming, Anthracite Headlining, Sports Seats, M-Sports Suspension, Aluminium Glacier Silver interior trim, M Steering Wheel, Front Foglamps, Park Distance Control (PDC) Rear, Automatic Air Conditioning, Front Centre Arm Rest, Extended Interior Light Package, Rear Electric Windows. £14,950


Bonefish Blues

36,438 posts

252 months

Wednesday 22nd September 2010
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edo said:
Main dealer car so you get 1 year of proper renewable warranty (another must for me):

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...



2006 BMW 130i 2996 cc M Sport 5-door
Trade Seller: Rybrook Worcester

5 Doors, Manual, Hatchback, Petrol, 37,618 miles, Le Mans Blue, Black Boston Leather, Bluetooth phone prep, Ext. mirrors - folding. auto dimming, Leather interior, Metallic paint, Navigation system Professional, SA3 Pricing Rule for 620 Voice Control, Sun protection glass, M-Aerodynamic Bodystyling I, M Double Spoke Style 208M 7.5Jx18/8Jx18, De-chroming, Anthracite Headlining, Sports Seats, M-Sports Suspension, Aluminium Glacier Silver interior trim, M Steering Wheel, Front Foglamps, Park Distance Control (PDC) Rear, Automatic Air Conditioning, Front Centre Arm Rest, Extended Interior Light Package, Rear Electric Windows. £14,950
That's some way North of where I expected to see that car priced, I must admit.