heater has died in banger. know of a good 12v heater?
heater has died in banger. know of a good 12v heater?
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pimping

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759 posts

203 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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hello. it seems only days ago i was telling of the virtues of my mondeo banger. well since then my fuel gauge, speedo, odometer, oil temp gauge, front screen demister thingy and heater have all packed in lol!

i can put up with it all apart from the heater and a recent trip to scotland yesterday showed me a broken heater is not fun. looking for a good 12v ciggarette plug-in heater if anybody knows of one. tried to fix the mondeo but no blown fuses, pulled the dashboard out and the turn/switch is working properly and to be honest its probably the thermostat but i think it might be beyond my skills and the cars not worth spending cash on really. no idea of costings.

all help gratefully received.

LuS1fer

43,503 posts

274 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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Is it a Mk I/II?

If so, look in the driver footwell by the centre console and you'll see a plastic lever. It will be in the down position. Push it up and tie it there and you'll get your hot air back. The problem is the rotary temperature control which instead of pushing the cable into the sleeve, allows it to bend and it does nothing, just keeps bending the cable. If you pull it apart, you can straighten the cable with pliers, add a bit of lube and used gently, it will operate the lever correctly until some doxy passenger gives it a hard twirl again.

pimping

Original Poster:

759 posts

203 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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it's a mk2. god i love this site.

in fact lus1fer that sounds spot on because as i was on my way to sunny scotland i did possibly turn it with some gusto and it made a 'clunk' and it felt different the action to previously 'twists' of the control.

today i pulled apart the front of the dash and the passenger footwell bit. effectively everywhere but where i needed to look!

i'll have a peek and update as to whether it worked tomorrow. if so i owe you a beer!

Edited by pimping on Monday 27th September 20:59

Sideways Tim

1,197 posts

215 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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12v heaters are all rubbish. Better off putting a couple of those disposable BBQ's on a sheet of asbestos on the back seat and fire them up 1/2 hour before you leave.

Toasty smile

Rubin215

2,084 posts

225 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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Sideways Tim said:
Better off putting a couple of those disposable BBQ's on a sheet of asbestos on the back seat and fire them up 1/2 hour before you leave.

Toasty smile
Fantastic way to end up dead!

A common suicide method, unfortunately.

The BBQ uses up the oxygen in the atmoshpere very quickly, and produces lots of carbon monoxide instead.
Much quicker than the old hosepipe from the exhaust, and a lot less likely to be noticed by some passing busy-body.

Sideways Tim

1,197 posts

215 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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Leave the windows open a crack, obviously. Otherwise the smell of bacon cooking on the way to work will distract you and you'll crash into some tit on their phone.

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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They are all terrible. We bought the best rated one out of a shocking bunch

the heat it gave out was at best luke warm I could put my hand on the output for whole journeys without any benefit of temp. The other great side of this was the gentle and I mean gentle gust it would give. Make that gently waving paper would create.

pimping

Original Poster:

759 posts

203 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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just been on the drive with screwdriver in hand in complete darkness 'having a go at the car'. could not have looked more suspicious to the neighbours!

but thanks to Mr Luc1fer's brilliant advice i now have a HEATER FOR WINTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

get in!

LuS1fer

43,503 posts

274 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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Look on the bright side. If you have all your fan speeds as well, your Mondeo is a good one. Mine only had half the heated screen too, another common fault and yes, it was the passenger side that worked....

The rotary control is a little more faffy as there is a ratchet but it's all cheap plastic and once you get the cable straight, it all forces back into place. It's more obvious when you look at it.

pimping

Original Poster:

759 posts

203 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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er only setting 4 works on the blower but this matters none as it blows HOT now!

and both front and rear screen worked last night but after me faffing about the rear one works but the front one has died lol.

the plug at the end of the cable had popped out on the arm for the heater near where you mentioned in the drivers side footwell. i thought about popping it back in but decided to zip tie it in place due to not wanting it popping out on one of my lengthy journeys and nearly freezing to death like the other day on the way to scotland at 4 in the morning.

actually got my sleeping bag out and put it on my lap it was that cold. what a big girls blouse!

DAVEVO9

3,469 posts

296 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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An old banger you said right?

Place a large spanner across the Battery terminals..

That should warm everything up pretty quick! Well, you did say 12v?

biggrin

pimping

Original Poster:

759 posts

203 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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12v, 24v, 35948374v as long as the blower works on HOT for winter it could start farting liquorice for all i care!

Petemate

1,674 posts

220 months

Monday 27th September 2010
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Dave - that reminds me of the times years ago when we used to magnetise screwdrivers by wrapping a coil of thick wire round the shank and dropping each end of the wire on to the terminals of a good strong 12v battery, you remember? Connect and retire immediately. Following would be a sizzling sound, loads of whitish smoke, an acrid plastic burning smell - kick the wire away and hey presto! a magnetic screwdriver. First time you were truly amazed at the phemomenon...
Sorry to go a bit O/T but I know PHers like their humour

Edited by Petemate on Monday 27th September 22:56

HellDiver

5,708 posts

211 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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LuS1fer said:
Look on the bright side. If you have all your fan speeds as well, your Mondeo is a good one. Mine only had half the heated screen too, another common fault and yes, it was the passenger side that worked....
Mine had that problem too - the driver's side plug had come loose, by the look of it when Ford put the plastic scuttle panel in at the factory. You need to remove the wipers, pop off the scuttle and you'll see the two plugs, one at each bottom corner of the screen.

pimping

Original Poster:

759 posts

203 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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went out i the motor today. ahhhhhh the bliss of warm air.

LuS1fer

43,503 posts

274 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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HellDiver said:
LuS1fer said:
Look on the bright side. If you have all your fan speeds as well, your Mondeo is a good one. Mine only had half the heated screen too, another common fault and yes, it was the passenger side that worked....
Mine had that problem too - the driver's side plug had come loose, by the look of it when Ford put the plastic scuttle panel in at the factory. You need to remove the wipers, pop off the scuttle and you'll see the two plugs, one at each bottom corner of the screen.
I would but it's been cubed, a victim of scrappage. In some ways it was better built than the Mk IV that replaced it.

750turbo

6,164 posts

253 months

Tuesday 28th September 2010
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pimping said:
sunny scotland
Comedian in our midsts I think smile

Hope you enjoyed the roads though driving

berni29

129 posts

203 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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Hi

While on this subject, I used to have a Lotus Elan +2 and I fitted a Webasto Hi-Top heater. It plumbed into the petrol and water and preheated the engine. It also had an exhaust that I used to have pointed at the sump. It had an electronic timer, so even in the hardeast winter the car would be near operating temp when I got in.

Berni

oilslick

971 posts

215 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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berni29 said:
Hi

While on this subject, I used to have a Lotus Elan +2 and I fitted a Webasto Hi-Top heater. It plumbed into the petrol and water and preheated the engine. It also had an exhaust that I used to have pointed at the sump. It had an electronic timer, so even in the hardeast winter the car would be near operating temp when I got in.

Berni
I'm curious about these heaters, are they expensive to buy / have installed?

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

227 months

Wednesday 29th September 2010
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berni29 said:
Hi

While on this subject, I used to have a Lotus Elan +2 and I fitted a Webasto Hi-Top heater. It plumbed into the petrol and water and preheated the engine. It also had an exhaust that I used to have pointed at the sump. It had an electronic timer, so even in the hardeast winter the car would be near operating temp when I got in.

Berni
Now that is a good idea - however thats a lot of stress to put on your battery in the freezing conditions, oil may be nice & warm but no power left to turn over the engine.