I've just found my perfect next car AND
I've just found my perfect next car AND
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Danny S

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7,543 posts

197 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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The mileage is shocking!

110,000 on a french 1.6 engine can't be good frown

bks!!! frown

The car in question is a white Citroen Saxo VTS that has just come up on the classifieds..

Does anyone know if these engines are good for 100k+?

Help, i could cry!

Danny

LHD

17,002 posts

216 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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Any reason you want a white Saxo VTS?

Just curious...

sc4589

1,960 posts

194 months

Thursday 30th September 2010
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Don't waste your money on it. Speaking from genuine, proper experience, Saxos are tin cans that shouldn't be lusted after.

They're quite good fun, but the pedal box is so, so cramped, the driving position is fking awful, the engines aren't that economical and they're extremely flimsy.

Sorry but that's setting your sights pretty low. Won't the insurance be a sod? Pretty sure about a million of these would get written off each week.

PetrolHeadSeb

368 posts

198 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Danny S said:
The mileage is shocking!

110,000 on a french 1.6 engine can't be good frown

bks!!! frown

The car in question is a white Citroen Saxo VTS that has just come up on the classifieds..

Does anyone know if these engines are good for 100k+?

Help, i could cry!

Danny
If the engine is looked after it will happily do much more than 100K.

Other things to check on them is that the gearbox is good, these cars do get abused and if some ham fisted hooligan has been slamming the gears in the 'box won't last too long.

Rear suspension is another area that can wear quite badly too so needs checking properly.

As has already been said, they are flimsy cars which aren't built the best, but that's also why they're good fun, so if it's priced well and is in good condition with service history go for it.

sc4589

1,960 posts

194 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Danny S

Original Poster:

7,543 posts

197 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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sc4589 said:
Would safety stop you buying a car you've lusted over for a long time?

Danny S

Original Poster:

7,543 posts

197 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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sc4589 said:
Don't waste your money on it. Speaking from genuine, proper experience, Saxos are tin cans that shouldn't be lusted after.

They're quite good fun, but the pedal box is so, so cramped, the driving position is fking awful, the engines aren't that economical and they're extremely flimsy.

Sorry but that's setting your sights pretty low. Won't the insurance be a sod? Pretty sure about a million of these would get written off each week.
Sorry it's just a car i feel i have to own, experience and the like


greggy50

6,276 posts

220 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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As a younger driver I have had been having mental insurance quotes on these I would stick with your corsa for now danny then look at getting a nicer example when you can afford one.

PaulGT3

377 posts

201 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Ignore things like colour and tarted up lights/wheels etc and try and find the most honest, standard, low mileage and unabused example you can find for your money.

sc4589

1,960 posts

194 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Danny S said:
sc4589 said:
Would safety stop you buying a car you've lusted over for a long time?
Yes. I nearly bought a Ford Escort XR3i not long ago. Changed my mind after I saw how badly they crash.

Danny S said:
sc4589 said:
Don't waste your money on it. Speaking from genuine, proper experience, Saxos are tin cans that shouldn't be lusted after.

They're quite good fun, but the pedal box is so, so cramped, the driving position is fking awful, the engines aren't that economical and they're extremely flimsy.

Sorry but that's setting your sights pretty low. Won't the insurance be a sod? Pretty sure about a million of these would get written off each week.
Sorry it's just a car i feel i have to own, experience and the like
That's fair enough... why don't you borrow one off a friend or something..?

Danny S

Original Poster:

7,543 posts

197 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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sc4589 said:
Danny S said:
sc4589 said:
Would safety stop you buying a car you've lusted over for a long time?
Yes. I nearly bought a Ford Escort XR3i not long ago. Changed my mind after I saw how badly they crash.

Danny S said:
sc4589 said:
Don't waste your money on it. Speaking from genuine, proper experience, Saxos are tin cans that shouldn't be lusted after.

They're quite good fun, but the pedal box is so, so cramped, the driving position is fking awful, the engines aren't that economical and they're extremely flimsy.

Sorry but that's setting your sights pretty low. Won't the insurance be a sod? Pretty sure about a million of these would get written off each week.
Sorry it's just a car i feel i have to own, experience and the like
That's fair enough... why don't you borrow one off a friend or something..?
I borrowed a friends the other day for an hour or so - was only a 1.4 8v but it made me feel like i was actually driving a car which i loved!

and Greggy50, why don't you go back to your SR125 wink haha

I sold my Corsa today

PetrolHeadSeb

368 posts

198 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Not sure how much this one you're looking at is up for, but to give you an idea I paid £1K for the one in my profile in July (MK1 '99, 73K, good clean condition) with hindsight I probably should have paid a bit less.

There's a lot of them about so take your time to pick a good one.

C2james

4,685 posts

194 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Why don't you have a look at a C2 VTS? It's a good car apparently and much much better in a crash, also the engines are good for 160hp without a turbo or anything. I've just got the 1.1 C2.

vit4

3,507 posts

199 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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sc4589 said:
Danny S said:
sc4589 said:
Would safety stop you buying a car you've lusted over for a long time?
Yes. I nearly bought a Ford Escort XR3i not long ago. Changed my mind after I saw how badly they crash.
Mind if I ask where there's a link anywhere? Presuming mk3/4 version, if mk5 don't worry smile It's a morbid wondering I always have driving the Escort hehe


OP, 110,000 miles on a French 1.6 depends entirely if they're 110,000 looked after miles or 110,000 miles at 110 miles an hour. Fwiw regarding 'French oh noes' the gf's mum has a 1.6 Megane that's coming up 140,000, and it hasn't been the best serviced of things. From what I can make out, it's other things such as electrics that give out hopelessly, although don't wish to be held to that biggrin


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Edited by vit4 on Friday 1st October 09:25

sc4589

1,960 posts

194 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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vit4 said:
sc4589 said:
Danny S said:
sc4589 said:
Would safety stop you buying a car you've lusted over for a long time?
Yes. I nearly bought a Ford Escort XR3i not long ago. Changed my mind after I saw how badly they crash.

Mind if I ask where there's a link anywhere? Presuming mk3/4 version, if mk5 don't worry smile It's a morbid wondering I always have driving the Escort hehe


OP, 110,000 miles on a French 1.6 depends entirely if they're 110,000 looked after miles or 110,000 miles at 110 miles an hour. Fwiw regarding 'French oh noes' the gf's mum has a 1.6 Megane that's coming up 140,000, and it hasn't been the best serviced of things. From what I can make out, it's other things such as electrics that give out hopelessly, although don't wish to be held to that biggrin
It was July time. hehe time flies!

DavidHM

3,940 posts

229 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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If it's a cheap snotter and you've always wanted one, sure.

If it's being sold as a mint, looked after, £2k example, I'd probably save the extra pennies and get an early C2.

dirty boy

14,859 posts

238 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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This one?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1890604.htm



As a suggestion, what about a 1.6 205 GTi?








PetrolHeadSeb

368 posts

198 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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dirty boy said:
If it is that one I think you can do better for the money tbh.

Also worth bearing mind that lowering any more than 40mm compromises the handling.

Might be worth asking around on www.saxperience.com to see what you can find out about it, it may be on there.

Edited by PetrolHeadSeb on Friday 1st October 09:28

Fastra

4,289 posts

238 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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Danny S said:
sc4589 said:
Would safety stop you buying a car you've lusted over for a long time?
Different slant, I'd stop anyone I love from having one!
My daughters getting to that 'age' now and I'm finding myself perusing through the classifieds for cheap snotters.
Saxos and the like do initially seem like reasonable buys, but when you look at some ENCAP results it quickly makes you realise that cheap isn't the only criteria for buying cars.

smile

Danny S

Original Poster:

7,543 posts

197 months

Friday 1st October 2010
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dirty boy said:
This one?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1890604.htm



As a suggestion, what about a 1.6 205 GTi?
That's the one!