RE: Vauxhall Barges: You know you want to...
RE: Vauxhall Barges: You know you want to...
Tuesday 5th October 2010

Vauxhall Barges: You know you want to...

PH 'Barges for Britain' with the once-mighty Vauxhall Griffin



With his appetite well and truly whetted by Garlick's fantastic Royale spot (see SOTW), Shed takes a wander back to a time when big Vauxhalls ruled the road, and were more than capable of handing the established powers of Stuttgart and Bavaria a damn good thrashing.

After all, Shed didn't spend sleepless nights of his formative years wide-eyed in a cold, dank, Anderson shelter, just so he could throw the towel in later in life. Back in the day, Vauxhall shared this bold philosophy and, faced with the super-powers of Mercedes and BMW, they turned to sister company Opel for the fight back. (German in name undoubtedly, but owned by our allies across the Atlantic since 1929 thus justifying a place in Shed's scarcely credible - and certainly ill-advised - WWII analogy...)

In one fell swoop, and with the might of GM behind it, Vauxhall merged the German penchant for efficiency, over-engineering, dynamics and progressive foresight, with British mastery of the mild face-lift and badge engineering.


So, with a battle cry of 'they don't like it up 'em!' (especially when 'it' is one of their own), Shed mourns the demise of 'Vauxhall's' take on the luxury barge.

Where better to start paying our respects than with this white Senator? Plod's motorway choice in the early '90s - it looks every inch the range topper with its imposing grill, want for nothing CD spec and extra rear legroom over the Carlton. Of course, as a traffic cops' favourite, it can also shift at an enviable rate - nudging 150mph was (once?) a realistic proposition.


Much better-suited to such shenanigans is this Carlton GSi with its tauter setup. Endowed with a 3 litre straight-six that pumped out 204bhp, it could launch itsself to 60mph in around 7secs on its way to a 146mph full-pelt maximum, though Shed suspects this example's windscreen sticker will add a few mph onto that. Although the sprinkling of skirts and spoilers point to this being a performance variant, they also lend the Carlton an affinity with more the uncouth road user. An affinity Shed, in his recently dry-cleaned executive suit from Mr Burton, isn't necessarily keen to endorse.


Especially, when there's only one real performance Carlton - the Lotus Carlton. The police branded it 'an outrageous invitation to speed,' and Shed could give it no higher praise than that. Its 377bhp twin-turbo inline six gave the Lotus 175mph-plus potential, while the turbos saw to a healthy 419Ib ft of torque. All figures considered, it makes this splendid example of Anglo-German co-operation seem laughably good value. With its stealth almost-black paint work, unique alloys, bulging body kit and all important Lotus badging, £10,995 seems like a bargain, for entry into PH hero-dom.


While the Lotus was - and still is - the most impressive performance barge Vauxhall's produced, it wasn't the last. That notable honour falls to the Omega MV6, its quad-cam 3.2 litre V6 produced 213bhp officially, although this ex police example’s owner claims a useful 230bhp. This combined with its capacious estate form, means Shed can get to the antiques fair while the other punters are still wolfing down their bacon sarnies.

And, should Shed be pipped to that grandfather clock he's had his eye on (he doesn't like to miss a bargain), this fully liveried ex-police saloon should have his unfortunate quarry stopped in no time. Frankly, tearing around the countryside playing cops and robbers sounds link a fun - and potentially profitable - way to spend the weekend.


So providing rear-wheel-drive fun to the masses, we hope to have proved there's a big Vauxhall for everyone. With a range of power outputs, they offer superb value and rarity the BMWs and Mercs can only dream of. We knew you'd agree...

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UK952

Original Poster:

768 posts

276 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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Lotus Carlton..................... black?

gumsie

680 posts

226 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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The Lotus Carlton. I'm a self confessed snob but I'd still take one of these over a lot of more expensive and much newer machinery.

johnpeat

5,328 posts

282 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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UK952 said:
Lotus Carlton..................... black?
Imperial Green surely...

and that GSi's wheels are nasty and the 'GSI 24v' sticker on the screen suggests at least 1 pillock owner...

anything fast

983 posts

181 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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The Lotus Carlton is Green not Black!! also 10k is low for one of these.. a decent one will cost you at least 15k.. anything for 10k will be in need of TLC, have a dodgy past or high mileage.

This car IMO is a landmark car and a 100 % classic.. most are standard but the Turbos run low boost and minor tweaks can see 500 BHP easily...no traction control, no driving aids this is real thrill ride and i would have this in my dream car garage over much more expensive and exotic machines... give it a few more years and you wont find a good one for less than 20k.. in its day an M5 beater, and still looks wonderful... even the 48k price tag when new kind of makes sense now!

all the other vauxhall barges are not worth a mention really...


HellDiver

5,708 posts

199 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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UK952 said:
Lotus Carlton..................... black?
They look black unless it's very sunny.

CampDavid

9,145 posts

215 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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The Omega is a barrel of laughs. LSD etc.

Like the use of the term "find another" at the end of the piggy car ad. There are hundreds of the feckers about!

Chris-R

756 posts

204 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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anything fast said:
The Lotus Carlton is Green not Black!! also 10k is low for one of these.. a decent one will cost you at least 15k.. anything for 10k will be in need of TLC, have a dodgy past or high mileage.

This car IMO is a landmark car and a 100 % classic.. most are standard but the Turbos run low boost and minor tweaks can see 500 BHP easily...no traction control, no driving aids this is real thrill ride and i would have this in my dream car garage over much more expensive and exotic machines... give it a few more years and you wont find a good one for less than 20k.. in its day an M5 beater, and still looks wonderful... even the 48k price tag when new kind of makes sense now!

all the other vauxhall barges are not worth a mention really...
Er... almost black!

We've sacked another sub-editor. Shame, he only started this morning...

308mate

13,758 posts

239 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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Buying that liveried cop car - does it get any more fun than that?

It would make my 55k miles each year of m-way driving 10 times easier.

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

226 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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Nice little dribble of nostalgia there.

Extra nerd points for remembering the great digital dash that the GSi 3000 came with?


NotNormal

2,391 posts

231 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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As already mentioned all LC's are green in colour.

The Lotus Carlton described in the article as "this splendid example" - your having a laugh right ???

The reason its so cheap is its a V recorded car as its a Cat D repair (as stated in the advert)readit. A lot better cars out there with better history and of course prices to match.

Awesome cars though smile

Edited by NotNormal on Tuesday 5th October 11:58

Kawasicki

13,779 posts

252 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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Isn't the lotus carlton just an opel omega? In much the same way as a bentley flying spur is just a vw phaeton?

BelperJim

2,505 posts

200 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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You could cause some great motorway queues by doing a steady 71mph in the Omega.

NotNormal

2,391 posts

231 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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Kawasicki said:
Isn't the lotus carlton just an opel omega? In much the same way as a bentley flying spur is just a vw phaeton?
err no. The Lotus although fundamentally based on the GSi has been extensively re-worked to create a different car with a lot of bespoke parts.

Sold in the UK - Vauxhall Carlton & Vauxhall Lotus Carlton

Sold in Europe - Opel Omega A & Opel Lotus Omega

Matt p

1,093 posts

225 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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johnpeat said:
UK952 said:
Lotus Carlton..................... black?
Imperial Green surely...

and that GSi's wheels are nasty and the 'GSI 24v' sticker on the screen suggests at least 1 pillock owner...
Don't forget the two unofficial silver ones smile

Kawasicki

13,779 posts

252 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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NotNormal said:
Kawasicki said:
Isn't the lotus carlton just an opel omega? In much the same way as a bentley flying spur is just a vw phaeton?
err no. The Lotus although fundamentally based on the GSi has been extensively re-worked to create a different car with a lot of bespoke parts.
I thought bentley reworked the phaeton?

NotNormal

2,391 posts

231 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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Ok, if you want to go that high level then thats a yes. But that same philosophy applies to most cars that are concieved and made.

M5Dave

829 posts

226 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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anything fast said:
all the other vauxhall barges are not worth a mention really...
I'm willing to bet you've never owned one, or driven one for any length of time.

I ran a manual Carlton GSi 24v for four years, and I couldn't help but drive the thing like a hooligan.

It was probably the most controlable and driftable car I've ever driven, massive fun, and I've never driven anything else that gave me the confidence to push beyond the limit that that car did, and I include my current E39 M5 in that.

Furthermore, I ragged it for 60,000 miles and it cost buttons to service and nothing went wrong.


TheStig44

170 posts

198 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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Just to clarify, the police style omega there is illegal for public roads right? If not that could be so much fun....

Thankyou4calling

10,803 posts

190 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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My Mum had an ex cop 3 litre carlton estate in white. She hated it as it had a poverty spec as far as luxuries but it did have up rated suspension, a specially calibrated speedo and some serious performance in kickdown. Drank the juice though.

deeen

6,212 posts

262 months

Tuesday 5th October 2010
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TheStig44 said:
Just to clarify, the police style omega there is illegal for public roads right? If not that could be so much fun....
It's illegal to pretend to be police, and to have the blues.
If the car doesn't say police, and the lights are properly disabled (eg no bulbs, maybe?) I *think* it would be legal.