neutral handling AWD cars
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all this talk of winter tyres recently has certainly made me think seriously about purchasing some. those nokian wr g2 are quite reminicent of gravel tyres, like what they use in that there rallying...
this had me thinking. i was looking at '02-'05 wrx's - seem to get a good low miler for the price, but how much of the AWD mechanicals get skimped on compared to the STI? is a WRX still a drivers car, or is it a skimped, poverty 'i can't afford an STI so i'll badge it up like one' car? and what about low traction conditions? are they comparible, or might you just as well have a slippy diff'd fwd hatch?
this had me thinking. i was looking at '02-'05 wrx's - seem to get a good low miler for the price, but how much of the AWD mechanicals get skimped on compared to the STI? is a WRX still a drivers car, or is it a skimped, poverty 'i can't afford an STI so i'll badge it up like one' car? and what about low traction conditions? are they comparible, or might you just as well have a slippy diff'd fwd hatch?
Even the GX model has a superb AWD system. I used to own one, and it was a hoot to drive in the snow. Painfully slow, but it never once failed us in the worst that Derbyshire and N Yorkshire had to throw at us. It would happily claw it's way up a steep snow covered hill from a standing start.
dylan0451 said:
so... kinda handled/handles like a front driver, front is driven until it begins to lose traction, washes out then starts working afterward?
No nothing like a front drive car. Scoobies have a proper full time AWD. You're describing a haldex / torsen type system that is FWD until slip is detected. Scoobies drive front and rears all the time.doogz said:
rhinochopig said:
dylan0451 said:
so... kinda handled/handles like a front driver, front is driven until it begins to lose traction, washes out then starts working afterward?
No nothing like a front drive car. Scoobies have a proper full time AWD. You're describing a haldex / torsen type system that is FWD until slip is detected. Scoobies drive front and rears all the time.The WRX and Sti are very simular in all models. The main differences are bigger brakes, more power and a stiffer spring set up, plus of course visual differences. The late newage blobeye Sti's and onwards have DCCD where as the WRX has a constant 50-50 AWD system. I am not sure when it came in but the hawkeye WRX onwards at least is fitted with rear LSD.
Handling wise, there is understear which can be swapped to overstear but more easily with a flick than with more power as the car tends to grip extreamly well. I now have new front tyres on mine though and that has changed things a bit, the back is much more willing to let go due to the extra grip at the front, although it does give you fare warning...............great fun!!!!!
Handling wise, there is understear which can be swapped to overstear but more easily with a flick than with more power as the car tends to grip extreamly well. I now have new front tyres on mine though and that has changed things a bit, the back is much more willing to let go due to the extra grip at the front, although it does give you fare warning...............great fun!!!!!
Evil.soup said:
The WRX and Sti are very simular in all models. The main differences are bigger brakes, more power and a stiffer spring set up, plus of course visual differences. The late newage blobeye Sti's and onwards have DCCD where as the WRX has a constant 50-50 AWD system. I am not sure when it came in but the hawkeye WRX onwards at least is fitted with rear LSD.
Handling wise, there is understear which can be swapped to overstear but more easily with a flick than with more power as the car tends to grip extreamly well. I now have new front tyres on mine though and that has changed things a bit, the back is much more willing to let go due to the extra grip at the front, although it does give you fare warning...............great fun!!!!!
this is a blobeye or hawkeye?Handling wise, there is understear which can be swapped to overstear but more easily with a flick than with more power as the car tends to grip extreamly well. I now have new front tyres on mine though and that has changed things a bit, the back is much more willing to let go due to the extra grip at the front, although it does give you fare warning...............great fun!!!!!
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/classifieds/1939012.h...
if the former, then there's no locking either fronnt, rear or mid?
dylan0451 said:
Evil.soup said:
The WRX and Sti are very simular in all models. The main differences are bigger brakes, more power and a stiffer spring set up, plus of course visual differences. The late newage blobeye Sti's and onwards have DCCD where as the WRX has a constant 50-50 AWD system. I am not sure when it came in but the hawkeye WRX onwards at least is fitted with rear LSD.
Handling wise, there is understear which can be swapped to overstear but more easily with a flick than with more power as the car tends to grip extreamly well. I now have new front tyres on mine though and that has changed things a bit, the back is much more willing to let go due to the extra grip at the front, although it does give you fare warning...............great fun!!!!!
this is a blobeye or hawkeye?Handling wise, there is understear which can be swapped to overstear but more easily with a flick than with more power as the car tends to grip extreamly well. I now have new front tyres on mine though and that has changed things a bit, the back is much more willing to let go due to the extra grip at the front, although it does give you fare warning...............great fun!!!!!
http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/classifieds/1939012.h...
if the former, then there's no locking either fronnt, rear or mid?
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