No Service History
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Marty Funkhouser

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5,443 posts

210 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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Would you buy a car without one? Trawling about the net at the moment its amazing how many 'FSH' actually turn out to be "well, apart from the last 40,000 miles" and how many people think all the MOT's count as a service history.

Is it a real punt buying a car without one?

DannyVTS

7,543 posts

197 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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Marty Funkhouser said:
Would you buy a car without one? Trawling about the net at the moment its amazing how many 'FSH' actually turn out to be "well, apart from the last 40,000 miles" and how many people think all the MOT's count as a service history.

Is it a real punt buying a car without one?
Yep, never had a car with full service history and they've been okay so far!

Make the obvious checks when you view a car and you'll be fine.

That's coming from someone who wouldn't take a car to get serviced at a garage and would do it hiself anyway, book is not that important to me smile

Edited by DannyVTS on Saturday 16th October 21:47

Deerfoot

5,240 posts

213 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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Marty Funkhouser said:
Is it a real punt buying a car without one?
Depends on budget and car for me.

A winter snotter for £500? No FSH, no problem.

A 3 year old GT3 with no history on the other hand..............

TRUENOSAM

763 posts

199 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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As long as you can see that there has been service work carried out to the car i.e new cambelts etc I dont see a problem as quite a lot of pepole do it themselves and in some cases do a better job of it too.

Unless the car is still covered under the manufacture warranty in wich cases in the event of major component failure will not be covered if the vehicle shows no history.

randomwalk

534 posts

193 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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if the price reflected lack of history I would consider it, although with exotic machinery forget it

Ricky_M

6,618 posts

248 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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Depends what sort of price the car is really. Anything north of £2k I'd be hoping for some sort of history.

The only thing I want to know about a car is when the cambelt was last done, any doubt about it I get it done ASAP.

I bought my 51 plate Focus for £1300, sold as seen, hardly any history. Can't afford to be too fussy for that sort of money.

DannyVTS

7,543 posts

197 months

Saturday 16th October 2010
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TRUENOSAM said:
As long as you can see that there has been service work carried out to the car i.e new cambelts etc I dont see a problem as quite a lot of pepole do it themselves and in some cases do a better job of it too.

Unless the car is still covered under the manufacture warranty in wich cases in the event of major component failure will not be covered if the vehicle shows no history.
Aye, forgot about this

Luckily most people will know and can usually prove the cambelt with there PSH

redgriff500

28,982 posts

292 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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As a rule everyone has the first few services done hence to me NO History = Clocked.

Not a problem on sub £1k cars but on anything expensive (to buy or maintain) I want to see receipts.

Colonial

13,553 posts

234 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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As I said in the same thread two weeks ago, it depends on the car.

4 year old Honda S2000? No. Not a chance.

1966 Land Rover IIA? I wouldn't worry about service history.

Alfahorn

7,825 posts

237 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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I bought my Sportwagon with part service history. The first 3 years were documented, the last 3 years weren't but the vendor had receipts for service parts he had bought and done the work himself. All the MOT's were present, I contacted the original selling dealer and subsequent owner and was satisfied all was well. I knocked £600.00 off the asking price and then had the car fully serviced including cambelt & water pump the following week by my trusted mechanic, he was satisfied that I had bought well and gave the car a clean bill of health.

The truth is even if the car has FSH there is no guarantee about the quality of the work completed or the mileage. Don't be put off by a car with part or no history, buying a car use your eyes and ears. If you think there is something wrong, walk away.


Merlot

4,121 posts

237 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Marty Funkhouser said:
Would you buy a car without one? Trawling about the net at the moment its amazing how many 'FSH' actually turn out to be "well, apart from the last 40,000 miles" and how many people think all the MOT's count as a service history.

Is it a real punt buying a car without one?
It depends on the value of the car and its fragility. For my 'nice' car I would always look for a decent (perhaps not always 'full') service history - to me it shows that the owner has some care for the car rather than simply using it as a tool.

However, for a boggo runabout (I'm incidentally looking for one now...) I'm not fussed. I'm not going to demand a full set of stamps and dealer backup invoices for a £500 Micra smile I'll buy on condition rather than history every time.



Johnnytheboy

24,499 posts

215 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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It never occurs to me not to have my cars serviced as per the schedule, so I can't put myself in the shoes of someone who didn't do so.

I'd worry about what other corners they'd cut too.

ShadownINja

79,999 posts

311 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Colonial said:
As I said in the same thread two weeks ago, it depends on the car.

4 year old Honda S2000? No. Not a chance.

1966 Land Rover IIA? I wouldn't worry about service history.
Yep. The lack of service history on a newer car means you can't trace regular problems. Thing is I bought a heap of a P reg Golf that actually had full service history from its various owners. I would have bought without it as it was so cheap.

LukeBird

17,170 posts

238 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Deerfoot said:
Marty Funkhouser said:
Is it a real punt buying a car without one?
Depends on budget and car for me.

A winter snotter for £500? No FSH, no problem.

A 3 year old GT3 with no history on the other hand..............
Absolutely.

soad

34,635 posts

205 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Depends on a car/budget. To repeat some - can't expect too much from a cheap runabout snotter.
On the more expensive motors (and i don't mean anything too exotic) - of course it matters.


jamoor

14,506 posts

244 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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less than £1k, i would let things slide.

More than 1k I would expect full maintenance records.

Bought a focus recently, one lady I enquired with never serviced it in three years! Just took it for an MOT every year.

Surprising how many cars are pitched as "lady owners" I don't know many ladies, but the ones I do don't know how to check tyre pressures or the oil level in their cars.

W00DY

16,707 posts

255 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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My Jag had none but as i paid £200 for it I wasn't bothered. The remainder of a bottle of Castrol magnatec included and talking to the previous owner gave me more confidence than most service histories would have. One of my beetles also has very little despite it being clear to an enthusiast it's had a lot of expensive parts fitted, I've had a few issues and I think the lack of receipts showed the previous oiwner was a little siaorganised so I'd avoid buying cars from people who've clearly had a lot of work done but have no paperwork.

vit4

3,507 posts

199 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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Personally, I wouldn't go near anything without at least recent service history unless it's dirt cheap (couple of hundred quid) or it's very clear it's been owned by an enthusiast and maintained by themselves.


I'm a little over-cautious though really, certainly more than anyone else my age who I know. Get the Astra serviced every 3,000 miles or so, and full service every 6,000. Going to start doing the interim ones myself, but will keep all receipts. I figure that it matters more with an old engine, and at the end of the day what's the harm in keeping it in good nick? At the moment I'm not too bothered about the bodywork due to financial restraints, but as far as the mechanical side of things goes I really do not understand people who don't get their cars serviced. frown

The fatboy

277 posts

191 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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a relative which is an old lady, had a L-reg fiesta for a long time but rarely drived it, only regular MOT done and the time she sold it few years ago for 750 with roughly 18000 miles on clock.

*Al*

3,830 posts

251 months

Sunday 17th October 2010
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I looked at a cheapish S type Jag and the owners hadn't serviced it in 50K!!! Openly admitted it too, i walked away.