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Is it just me, or is OK to put up a bus stop at a junction? This route has recently been opened in Portlethen, Aberdeen.
Ok its not a busy bus stop, but you can just imagine, coming up behind a bus (going left to right), and seeing he is picking up quite a few passengers, decide to pull out and pass him.
A driver coming out of the "T" junction to turn left, looks right, all clear, without paying as much attention as he should starts to turn left, and meets a car on the wrong side of the road coming his way.
Isn't the location of bus stops subject to risk assessment, oh lets put a bus stop on a junction, or rather, lets NOT put it opposite a junction.
The bus stop on the left hand is just as bad in my humble opinion.
Ok its not a busy bus stop, but you can just imagine, coming up behind a bus (going left to right), and seeing he is picking up quite a few passengers, decide to pull out and pass him.
A driver coming out of the "T" junction to turn left, looks right, all clear, without paying as much attention as he should starts to turn left, and meets a car on the wrong side of the road coming his way.
Isn't the location of bus stops subject to risk assessment, oh lets put a bus stop on a junction, or rather, lets NOT put it opposite a junction.
The bus stop on the left hand is just as bad in my humble opinion.
Zod said:
wildone63 said:
Zod said:
Both are terrible sites for a bus stop.
Bus w
kers!
Not the bus companies fault.Bus w
kers!Its the local council who decides the location isnt it?
k the bus company in the fking fanny. tts!Another Inbetweeners reference...
Thats it then, I will be writing to the council on Monday.
The same council who made it 3 lanes past the prison in town, with a sweeping blind bend to your left as you drove south, the white lines allowed you to move into L2 to overtake. I pointed out I thought the lines may be wrong, to which the said "You may be right, we open the road then carry out a safety check"
About 6 months later, they changed them.
The same council who made it 3 lanes past the prison in town, with a sweeping blind bend to your left as you drove south, the white lines allowed you to move into L2 to overtake. I pointed out I thought the lines may be wrong, to which the said "You may be right, we open the road then carry out a safety check"
About 6 months later, they changed them.
andyroo said:
Transport planners seem to think that if they block roads up with buses it will get people out of cars. Deluded idiots, the lot of 'em.
Under Ken
ingstone, they came up with the brainwave of placing bus stops directly opposite each other in London. Where that was still not enough to block the road, they built the bus stops out from the kerb. Anyone familiar with Haverstock Hill in Belsize Park will know just what I mean.Edited by Zod on Saturday 23 October 19:23
And then they've another one 50 yards further up. Why not just have one bus stop FFS.My local council had a wonderful idea in 2006 for installing bus "pinch points" in a small town near me, that eventually caused utter chaos. Eventually:
http://www.shropshirestar.com/latest/2008/10/28/tr...
Common sense prevailed, and the bus "build-outs" were removed.
http://www.shropshirestar.com/latest/2008/10/28/tr...
Common sense prevailed, and the bus "build-outs" were removed.
kiteless said:
My local council had a wonderful idea in 2006 for installing bus "pinch points" in a small town near me, that eventually caused utter chaos. Eventually:
http://www.shropshirestar.com/latest/2008/10/28/tr...
Common sense prevailed, and the bus "build-outs" were removed.
There's a road near me with build outs that were recently added. They also added a bus stop every 25-50 metres along it. Getting stuck behind a bus is so tedious.http://www.shropshirestar.com/latest/2008/10/28/tr...
Common sense prevailed, and the bus "build-outs" were removed.
On the plus side, a lot of transportation engineers are recognising that buses are pretty much a waste of time outside of major cities, and that they are not the eco-solution they hoped they would be.
There's a great one in Cheltenham. A bus stop (with layby) on a dual carriageway 50 yards before a roundabout. The bus route goes right at the roundabout so the bus has to get across 3 lanes from a standstill in 50 yards. It's either a barge across 3 lanes of stationary traffic in rush hour or a dash across all three flat out the rest of the time.
agent006 said:
There's a great one in Cheltenham. A bus stop (with layby) on a dual carriageway 50 yards before a roundabout. The bus route goes right at the roundabout so the bus has to get across 3 lanes from a standstill in 50 yards. It's either a barge across 3 lanes of stationary traffic in rush hour or a dash across all three flat out the rest of the time.
Similar up here, the bus from Stonehaven, heads Northbound on a NSL dual carriageway, and has to come to a standstill at the filter lane on the offside lane before it makes a right hand turn to cross the Southbound carriageway. So bus is waiting to turn right from a standing start across the southbound carriageway on which vehicles are tavelling at 70-80 during rush hour, or more!Guess what last year, crunch, bus started to cross carriageway, van hit it square on its side. Ironically less than half a mile further up the road, is a flyover, the bus could easily have used that to enter Portlethen. The flyover has been there about 20 odd years.
They have now re-routed it............ Who are theese idiots who plan our roads etc.
There is one in Windermere opposite a church (so lots of elders) and it is on a left hand tree lined blind bend (30mph)
So if you are driving you can suddenly come across a bus stopped with no where to go, or the bus suddenly anchors on to stop there.
Or the people getting off have to make a run for it as there is nowhere to go - just 6' of tarmac for the bus stop and then trees to each direction.
The main bus station is a 5 minute walk from this point and there is another stop less than 500m before this one (with a pull in place)
So if you are driving you can suddenly come across a bus stopped with no where to go, or the bus suddenly anchors on to stop there.
Or the people getting off have to make a run for it as there is nowhere to go - just 6' of tarmac for the bus stop and then trees to each direction.
The main bus station is a 5 minute walk from this point and there is another stop less than 500m before this one (with a pull in place)
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