Why can’t I pay my RFL monthly...

[Bowler]

As the title says really....

Now that Gov’t has finally shoved through the (IMHO, immoral) emission based RFL fees, I am faced with having to pay more than double Road Tax for my 2 cars.

I can pay my TV licence monthly
I can pay more council Tax monthly

So, why not give the option to pay my RFL monthly?

With all the ANPR stuff around nowadays, plus the annual application to prove Insurance and MOT Etc, any argument about “checks” doesn’t wash with me.

So why not?

Or have I missed something

[frosted]

Great , more direct debits

[Jonny_693]

Should be the option imo. It's 2010 for fks sake!

[masermartin]

frosted said:

Great , more direct debits

Yes, this would be a downside if like me you hate DD's, but on the other hand, it's a regular monthly outgoing, less likely to be forgotten and easier to budget for. In balance I like the idea tbh.

[Welshbeef]

Anpr isn't on every road just major roads as such those who drive without mot INS etc by going minor routes.

I think it should continue and if the amount you have to pay causes problems them maybe it's time to chop in for a cheaper example or stop sky or no holidays

[redstu]

Its an outdated tax, stick it on fuel then you cant avoid it and you pay weekly or whenever. Another system abolished will also save some cash for the government.

[DanGPR]

redstu said:

Its an outdated tax, stick it on fuel then you cant avoid it and you pay weekly or whenever. Another system abolished will also save some cash for the government.

Can you imagine the outrage when fuel instantly goes to £1.50 a litre overnight?

[redstu]

DanGPR said:

redstu said:

Its an outdated tax, stick it on fuel then you cant avoid it and you pay weekly or whenever. Another system abolished will also save some cash for the government.

Can you imagine the outrage when fuel instantly goes to £1.50 a litre overnight?

explained properly there should be no need for that.
Simplification is needed in all taxation!

[thinfourth2]

redstu said:

DanGPR said:

redstu said:

Its an outdated tax, stick it on fuel then you cant avoid it and you pay weekly or whenever. Another system abolished will also save some cash for the government.

Can you imagine the outrage when fuel instantly goes to £1.50 a litre overnight?

explained properly there should be no need for that.
Simplification is needed in all taxation!

I thought it would go up by about 10 pence to cover the cost of the tax disc

[Engineer1]

If it only needed to go up 10p but everyone thought they could blame the government for a 30p increase then they would consider it quite seriously.

[Tango13]

DanGPR said:

redstu said:

Its an outdated tax, stick it on fuel then you cant avoid it and you pay weekly or whenever. Another system abolished will also save some cash for the government.

Can you imagine the outrage when fuel instantly goes to £1.50 a litre overnight?

Imagine the embarressement when you do the maths based on a car doing 12,000 miles a year paying £240 in RFL and averaging 30mpg and realise how wrong you are!

We pay road tax not for maintaining the roads but to prop up the economy

[RosscoPCole]

Guernsey got rid of tax discs in 2007 if I remember correctly. Petrol prices went up and cars displayed an insurance disn instead. I didn't mind the fuel increase was about 20p a litre if I remember correctly. Saved a lot of hastle when tax disc needed renewed.

[hyperblue]

RosscoPCole said:

Guernsey got rid of tax discs in 2007 if I remember correctly. Petrol prices went up and cars displayed an insurance disn instead. I didn't mind the fuel increase was about 20p a litre if I remember correctly. Saved a lot of hastle when tax disc needed renewed.

The extra cost of 20p/litre on fuel would be a lot more than a tax disc. Though on Guernsey you can't exactly do mileage!

[redstu]

RosscoPCole said:

Guernsey got rid of tax discs in 2007 if I remember correctly. Petrol prices went up and cars displayed an insurance disn instead. I didn't mind the fuel increase was about 20p a litre if I remember correctly. Saved a lot of hastle when tax disc needed renewed.

right that's it , I'm off to Guernsey!

[Tango13]

hyperblue said:

RosscoPCole said:

Guernsey got rid of tax discs in 2007 if I remember correctly. Petrol prices went up and cars displayed an insurance disn instead. I didn't mind the fuel increase was about 20p a litre if I remember correctly. Saved a lot of hastle when tax disc needed renewed.

The extra cost of 20p/litre on fuel would be a lot more than a tax disc. Though on Guernsey you can't exactly do mileage!

20p a litre is 90p a gallon

I do 12000 miles a year at an average of 20mpg using 600 gallons of fuel so would be paying £540 as opposed to the current £240. No thanks.

[Welshwonder]

Go to the post office. You can buy 'stamps' towards your road tax. Maybe they do an online scheme too...?

[marlinmunro]

We are getting off subject here, the OP wants to know why he can not pay for his road tax monthly. There is no reason why the government could not implement this. Maybe because RFL used to be a relatively small amount of money there was not need to spread the payment but now some road tax is so exorbitant there is a case to easy the burden. For example my RFL is nearly as much as my insurance

As for the suggestion we can down size, well yes we could walk to work and wear sack cloth. Then the government would have to tax us another way

[Welshbeef]

Tv licence is also a small amount per annum plus also PCM.
I'd say the cost to set it up and complexity of multiple rates and starting and stopping would create a cottage industry.

Put it all on fuel... Well I'd rather all costs to be on fuel even the mot that way those idiots who drive without mots have fewer reasons not to get it done. Less red tape equals less cost.

[kev b]

You will still have to register your car with the DVLA,pretty soon there would be a small fee for this,then each budget this fee would increase until in a few years time it would cost as much as the existing road fund licence.

[LC2]

kev b said:

You will still have to register your car with the DVLA,pretty soon there would be a small fee for this,then each budget this fee would increase until in a few years time it would cost as much as the existing road fund licence.

^^ This