RE: PH Fleet Update: Land Rover Defender
RE: PH Fleet Update: Land Rover Defender
Tuesday 26th October 2010

PH Fleet Update: Land Rover Defender

£25 for a couple of hours of dirty fun? Count us in...


Not being blessed with rolling acres, a racing car to tow, or any urgent need to inspect overhead power cables on top of the Sussex Downs, I'm aware of the slightly fraudulent nature of my love for the PH long term Defender.

Fruit picking. Quite dull really.
Fruit picking. Quite dull really.
So in an attempt to assuage the guilt and get a suitable lifestyle, I spent part of last weekend doing a 'River Cottage'-type thing with Mrs-R in Notts. (The county, not a yoga position.) With its chequer-plate wing tops, the Defender was pressed successfully into service as a mobile picking platform for the fruit of the Blackthorn tree, which we fully intend to convert into syrupy Sloe Gin in industrial quantities. (At this point I should respectfully remind PHers that off-roading and alcohol don't happily mix but, as my friend Mr D and - not so happily - the green-keeping committee of Highgate Golf Club might attest, this is not a universal truth.)

While picking Sloes is a worthwhile pastime in itself, it's not a role that taxes the finest 4x4 by far. So that same afternoon we bunged the berries in the freezer and hot-footed it further up the A1, where cars like ours are allowed to 'Pay & Play' at the Frickley Off-Road Centre.

Off-roading. Never dull...
Off-roading. Never dull...
At a cost of £25 per vehicle, a 'Pay & Play' session is a great way to experience off-roading, and at Frickley there's a wide variety of challenges from simple muddy tracks to bottomless boggy pits. In theory it should be suitable for anyone with a yearning to test the family SUV off the tarmac, and we expected to find a few more shiny family wagons out enjoying a mud-lark.

So much for the theory. In reality, we arrived to find a car park full of heavily modified vehicles that would have looked at home on a Mad Max set, and a bunch of hardened mud-pluggers looking at us 'funny' for turning up in a brand new Defender. At least until I'd explained the Defender was, (ahem!) borrowed, that is...

...if not always strictly fun!
...if not always strictly fun!
In truth, we were never going to be that adventurous, because the more challenging parts of the Frickley Off-Road Centre have the potential to cause serious damage to man and machine, a fact that some of the more spirited mud-pluggers were delightfully keen to prove. In particular, the highly-modified Suzuki Jeep-mounted element displayed a gratifyingly lunatic attitude towards a range of insurmountable/impassable topographical features, with often spectacular results.

A Land Rover contingent was out in force too, but we didn't see another one like ours - unmodified and running road tyres. A lift kit, mud tyres and a snorkel seems to be the minimum requirement for the regulars, but some people had clearly invested a lot more time and money than that. We particularly admired another LWB Defender with external roll cage, bucket seats, and (whisper this) Toyota Land Cruiser axles - presumably cannibalised for its diff locks.

Modded Landies were out in force
Modded Landies were out in force
SWB Defenders have a distinct advantage over long 'uns like ours on the rough stuff, a fact we managed to prove early-on by getting our side rail beached on a mud bank. Fortunately there's an obvious code of honour amongst off-roaders, and towing other 4x4s out of the mire seems to be part of the fun. Things were complicated slightly by the fact that everyone else's supertanker-grade towing shackle was far too big for our Landie's little towing eyes, the front one of which is partially obscured by the sump guard. Ho-hum! No matter, we were dragged out backwards by the tow-hitch instead.

Later on, that same tow hitch mounting helped us get properly stuck in some very deep ruts when, unable to proceed any further forwards, it bulldozed mud as we reversed creating an effective buffer to progress. This time the site tractor was required for extraction duties, at which point the marshals supplied the good-humoured assistance.

Hitch mount  helped get us stuck
Hitch mount helped get us stuck
In fact, we were really struck by the friendliness of everybody we met on site - punters and staff alike - which quickly took the edge off any nervousness we felt turning up as 'outsiders'. So if you've got an off-roader that's never been properly dirty, don't be shy and have go. There's plenty of easy terrain that a standard 4x4 can cope with, lots of good-natured advice, and help when it's needed, too.

Just don't tell the chaps with the tractor that PistonHeads sent you...









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Fleckers

Original Poster:

2,878 posts

224 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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where are the pictures of the Chelsea Tractors ?

From the way I have seen them driven recently there is NUFFINK they cant do.


DannyVTS

7,543 posts

191 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Frickley eh? Used to go watch the Football there!

Heard the green lanning track was a good en, a few of my old mates go in Defenders and Suzuki SJ's

soad

34,351 posts

199 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Off road - ditches, water, mud. Epic! biggrin

BigTaf

46 posts

232 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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I must say being a enviromentalist this sort of behavior should be band. Having a 4x4 and driving about in such away to have fun, the 4x4 being useful and using it as it was designed for! What is this world coming to. nononononono

edit for being a Muppet

Edited by BigTaf on Monday 25th October 19:52

Adz The Rat

17,844 posts

232 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Brilliant, I really wish a Defender was in my budget.

eltax91

10,624 posts

229 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Had a great time last time I went to Frickly! You guys should have posted in the off road section, I might have joined you for a "buddy up". The guys in the totally stripped and externally caged thing were there last time I went too...

My Disco after going in "the pond" last time I was there... biggrin


freakybacon

579 posts

186 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Yep- Frickley is great, but suited to serious mud plugging tackle Been there with my grand vitara, and had to be towed twice by the recovery tractor!. Parkwood at Tong near Leeds/Bradford is worth a look too- and has routes for 4x4s with road biased tires.

TRUENOSAM

763 posts

193 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Is it me or do all defenders look more normal covered in mud and up to the doors in water than clean driving down the road

andy_s

19,816 posts

282 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Ha - I've had quite a few 'what am I doing here' moments - looks great fun thumbup

Beyond Rational

3,544 posts

238 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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How many vehicles on sale today can you drive into a hedge and then stand on the bonnet without a worry?

Eggman

1,253 posts

234 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Worth noting that the front tie down eye should never be used as an off road recovery point - it's nothing like strong enough and could easily get pulled off. (It's really intended for lashing them down on car transporters and so on)

Once loose, it's not something you particularly want flying around on the end of a rope; if it hit something (or more particularly, somebody) it would do a lot of damage!

RV8

1,570 posts

194 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Beyond Rational said:
How many vehicles on sale today can you drive into a hedge and then stand on the bonnet without a worry?
He's got the plating on both wing tops, there are occasionally land rover enthusiasts who turn their noses up at the chequer plate bits and bobs but tbh they do the job - I don't have them and consequently I have dented one wing top with my knee but that just adds to the authentic patina. The defender is pretty much an automotive climbing frame so if you want something fixing or fetching from high up and you don't have a ladder you can drive up to it and stand all over the thing, I doubt you'd get anyone considering doing that with newish G wagons.

Marlboro Gold

8,596 posts

247 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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It's not only LR that get dirty!

The morning.



The afternoon.


andyps

7,819 posts

305 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Great to see what happens at Frickley - I drive past pretty regularly as my office is just around the corner, but with a Fiat Coupe I guess it is not really suitable for me to visit! Looks like fun though. And the football club is nearby, just behind my office building.

danishMrB

13 posts

191 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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If you dont happen to own your own 4x4 - there is a company that does trial sessions. The track is based near Reading, great bunch of guys too. www.berkshire4x4.co.uk

HellDiver

5,708 posts

205 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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HellDiver likes this.

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

196 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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I miss my series III cry

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

213 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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PH - if you want to do something else with the Landy let me know. I'm a member of my local MSA affiliated ALRC club. We run RTV trials monthly. All the vehicle needs to enter is Road Tax, recovery points front and rear and a tow rope.

louismchuge

1,644 posts

207 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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HellDiver said:
HellDiver likes this.
Oooh, is it time for a facebook style 'like' button?

mister.t

3,145 posts

219 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Another incentive to get my 90 back running, I do miss trialing/P&Ps!

Need to get over to Frickley one day, does look like a good site