Machining wheels
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Mars

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9,907 posts

237 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Bought some wheels off Ebay to mount the winter tyres on (no, not another thread about them) but the centre hole has a ridge running around it preventing my fitting the Subaru centre cap. I'd like it machined down a bit. What sort of place am I looking for to do this?.. and could they do it with the tyres on the wheels (I don't really want to have them removed now).



Maybe this is something I could do with a dremel or a die grinder? Good idea/bad idea?

Big Rod

6,257 posts

239 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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I wager it'd be easier/cheaper to modify the caps or buy a new set and modify them rather than the wheels.

Alternatively, Blu-Tac is quite good!!

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

240 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Big Rod said:
I wager it'd be easier/cheaper to modify the caps or buy a new set and modify them rather than the wheels.

Alternatively, Blu-Tac is quite good!!
^^^^^^this^^^^^^

Cut lip off set of caps, superglue to wheels, pour beer, relax smile

Mars

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9,907 posts

237 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Yeah, I see where you're coming from but I have only one set of caps from my other wheels which I'd hoped to transfer back and forth as I swap from winters to summers. Sorry, should have made that clear.

The caps are quite expensive.

AndrewW-G

11,968 posts

240 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Mars said:
The caps are quite expensive.
Even a set of Prodrive ones on ebay are cheaper than chucking up a set of wheels and machining them . . . . which would impact upon the value of the wheels come resale time

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

257 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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You'll make a right mess of that with a dremel. Get some cheap caps from Ebay, and mess with them instead.

Mars

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9,907 posts

237 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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The wheels were only £100 off Ebay but I suppose you're right, and that's exactly the opinions I was after. Thanks. I'll see if I can get a set of Prodrive ones (I have a friend who works for them).

Mars

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237 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Looks to be about 2mm. The ridge is about 4mm high. Need to leave *some* ridge there as a seat for the face of the cap.

Mars

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237 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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The height of the ridge is a little under 2mm too high. So I'd need the ridge bored to between 3 and 4mm wider (diameter).

I've just found a few local places that are advertised as machine shops. When I take these wheels off in the Spring, I'll drag them around to see if anyone can bore them without having to take the tyres off.

DRCAGE

499 posts

188 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Leaving tyres on shouldn't be a problem, at worst they'll have to re-centre it on each wheel (not hard). I guess the engineering company would make a jig (I would) so tyres shouldn't be a problem at all. Id get a bollokin if it took me more than about 2 hours MAX start to finish, can be expensive unless you know someone in the biz.

Im afraid to say all of the above is useless knowledge, like everybody else said, mod some cheap caps an jobs a good'un. thumbup

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Why bother

The wheels are round what more do you want?

Mars

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Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
Why bother

The wheels are round what more do you want?
Bit of a facile question really. Why bother washing your car? Why bother taking pride in it in any way? Answer: because I already own a set of caps, and the car looks better with them on.

Did you really need to ask?

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Mars said:
Did you really need to ask?
As you might be a dullard that thinks they do something then other then look pretty.

To machine them out then its a easy job with a milling machine and a boring head, should take ten minutes per wheel as it doesn't need to be dead center.

Do be aware it will break the lacquer so your wheels will look cack in no time once the salt and cack gets in.

They are winter wheels they are meant to look cack so save you money and get your summer wheels tarted up

B1ggest

286 posts

190 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Your looking at a couple of hours, and most places will charge £75 ish per hour. Needs to be a m/c shop with a very big 4 jaw chuck lathe, even bigger if you want to leave tyres on?

Could one of the big wheel reburbishers not do it?

anonymous-user

77 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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You'll probably have a bit of a chase around trying to find someone with a lathe big enough to take the wheels (especially with the tyres on!!) of course, as you don't care if the centre caps are EXACTLY in the centre (i mean to lathe stds, i.e + or - a 1mm wouldnt hurt) so i'm sure you could find someone with a big pillar drill or mill and just stick a boring bar in it, centre it by the old eyecrometer and fireaway!

(but as mentioned, just mod the caps, easier, cheaper)

shalmaneser

6,298 posts

218 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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The cost of getting it machined out would be massive, and more to the point people wouldn't be interested in doing it. Machinists don't just sit around with odd two hour slots, they're on jobs the whole time they're at work and a couple of hours to machine some wheels is not a very efficient use of time. If you knew someone in the industry however it might be a different story.

Buy some second hand centre caps off the bay and butcher them to fit then epoxy them in, much easier.

Petrolhead_Rich

4,659 posts

215 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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Dremel them if there only winter tyres, but do a little at a time and keep trying the caps.

Machining is going to cost alot, if you can find a machine that can fit them in...

yes its a bodge, but if done carefully it will be fine, its not impacting the safety of the wheel (unless you go crazy with the dremel....)

Jonnas

1,004 posts

186 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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thinfourth2 said:
To machine them out then its a easy job with a milling machine and a boring head, should take ten minutes per wheel as it doesn't need to be dead center.
Listen to this man ^^, he talks sense! Only a mentalist would chuck these with tyres on! If you find someone who will do this let me know so I can be somewhere else! Pop into your local machine shop, drop them off and pick them up a week later for some beer tokens. Bit of stud through the wheel nut holes into a T-Nut on the table to clamp them down without scratching the paint and bingo......

Edited for shot splellings.......

Edited by Jonnas on Wednesday 3rd November 19:11

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2010
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B1ggest said:
Your looking at a couple of hours, and most places will charge £75 ish per hour. Needs to be a m/c shop with a very big 4 jaw chuck lathe, even bigger if you want to leave tyres on?

Rollocks

Even if you did them on a lathe

Need a machine with roughly a 24" swing which ain't huge. 3 jaw chuck, grip on the inner rim of the wheel with the jaws inside the wheel not outside, quick slow spin to check for alignment, 2 cuts with a boring bar, repeat 3 times, cup of tea.

An hour tops