Most ridiculously inaccurate instruction in a Haynes manual?
Most ridiculously inaccurate instruction in a Haynes manual?
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AcidReflux

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3,210 posts

276 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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Been fighting my wife's Saab today to replace the alternator. Apart from the fundamental instruction missing from the Haynes Manual that would have revealed the hidden bolt I spent an hour seeking, the instruction that made me laugh maniacally the most was the rather glib instruction 7.7 on page 5A.3:

"Withdraw the alternator via the right-hand wheel arch."

fk off, Haynes. Either your authors are reborn gynaecologists or they have clearly never tried to perform this operation themselves.

I realise that Haynes Manuals aren't what they used to be, but do I own the only Haynes Manual to be published in the 'fiction' section or are they all like this?

BriC175

961 posts

202 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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AcidReflux said:
I realise that Haynes Manuals aren't what they used to be, but do I own the only Haynes Manual to be published in the 'fiction' section or are they all like this?
I've never had an issue with Haynes instructions.

ludicrous speed

959 posts

216 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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It's the photo's that were taken in the dark on a camera without a flash that get me. irked

maniac0796

1,292 posts

188 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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ludicrous speed said:
It's the photo's that were taken in the dark on a camera without a flash that get me. irked
Or the fact they focus on the screw/bolt you need to undo, and not where the actual bolt is in relation to the rest of the car. A picture of a bolt does me no good, a picture of the engine bay, with an arrow pointing to the bolt does.

pacman1

7,324 posts

215 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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AcidReflux said:
Been fighting my wife's Saab today to replace the alternator. Apart from the fundamental instruction missing from the Haynes Manual that would have revealed the hidden bolt I spent an hour seeking, the instruction that made me laugh maniacally the most was the rather glib instruction 7.7 on page 5A.3:

"Withdraw the alternator via the right-hand wheel arch."

fk off, Haynes. Either your authors are reborn gynaecologists or they have clearly never tried to perform this operation themselves.

I realise that Haynes Manuals aren't what they used to be, but do I own the only Haynes Manual to be published in the 'fiction' section or are they all like this?
Not sure if it applies to your Saab, but the mechanic I use told me that on the newer ones, you have to tell the ECU it has a new alternator or it won't work. Mad I tell you, mmmad.

4mo

1,300 posts

197 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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Usually find them quite good, apart from the "release by tapping with a small hammer", which invariably means drowned in WD40, heat to glowing red and hit as hard as you can with the biggest hammer you can find smile

AcidReflux

Original Poster:

3,210 posts

276 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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pacman1 said:
Not sure if it applies to your Saab, but the mechanic I use told me that on the newer ones, you have to tell the ECU it has a new alternator or it won't work. Mad I tell you, mmmad.
I do hope not. This car's life is likely to be cut short soon anyway, and that'd just accelerate the decision.

4mo said:
Usually find them quite good, apart from the "release by tapping with a small hammer", which invariably means drowned in WD40, heat to glowing red and hit as hard as you can with the biggest hammer you can find smile
hehe

J4CKO

45,737 posts

222 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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They must hate Saab owners, I bought one for my current shape 9-3 ready to do the clutch, the section on the Clutch was missing totally, they sent a replacement and that didnt have it either ! inordinate ammount of arsing about to get a new one, they finally sent a third one that had the missing bit.

FreeLitres

6,120 posts

199 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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AcidReflux said:
Been fighting my wife blah blah blah
redfacenono

LuS1fer

43,173 posts

267 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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"Refitting is the reverse of removal"


Ooooooh no it isn't...

clarkey328is

2,220 posts

196 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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"Gently"

pwd95

8,438 posts

260 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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"Retain tension spring" = 'Ping'...WTF was that..... hehe

mrmr96

13,736 posts

226 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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"Refitting is the reverse of removal."

I know they need to save space in the book and 90% of the time refitting something is considerably easier... however sometimes a bit more info would be nice.

southpaw

5,999 posts

247 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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LuS1fer said:
"Refitting is the reverse of removal"


Ooooooh no it isn't...
hehe

Also things like "Reach behind the light and unclip cover"...unfortunately my hands have grown since the age of 2 and so that is impossible...

LeeThr

3,122 posts

193 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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"Apply a gental amount of pressure" = Find the worlds strongest man or keep applying pressure untill your coverd in a river of sweat and your face has turned blue and even then you still cant get it undone.

Graebob

2,172 posts

229 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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Instructions for removing the water pump on a Rover Metro.

Haynes Paraphrased said:
1) Make sure everything is still in the engine bay
2) Remove timing belt
3) Undo bolts holding in water pump
4) Remove Water Pump
5) Installation is reversal or removal
Wow. Thanks.

Eggman

1,253 posts

233 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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I was once stumped by a procedure in the MkII Cavalier manual (iirc for removing the steering rack) which would have only worked if you were inside the rack attempting to dismantle your way out. I have taken their advice with a pinch of salt ever since.

Bebee

4,723 posts

247 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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Women

Rich_W

12,548 posts

234 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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Could it be that you lot have ZERO mechanical aptitude?

After all everyone knows mechanics are just rip of bodgers, with no skills who charge too much for their time. And you can do the job yourself in half the time for free...

BBS-LM

3,978 posts

246 months

Sunday 14th November 2010
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Haynes Manual should be renamed, Haynes ruff guess. Complete waste of time and money them books.