Insurance randomness - less expensive for unexpected reasons
Insurance randomness - less expensive for unexpected reasons
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CraigyMc

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18,086 posts

258 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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I can tell what you're thinking - "oh dear, not another thread about insurance getting more expensive unexpectedly".

Well, this isn't that thread.

I'm trying to figure out whether or not to take a new company car. I figured it might be a good idea to know what insurance costs are like these days, since the last time I had to insure a car was nearly 4 years ago.

I've been playing on a large insurer's website (not sure if I'm allowed to say which one, suffice to say the name is related to a large land mammal).

Things found so far:
  • It's cheaper to be cohabiting than single, and cheaper to be single than married.
  • It's cheaper to park on a driveway than the street, and cheaper to park on the street than in a garage.
  • It's cheaper to have no immobiliser or tracker on the car than to have them fitted.
How weird is this lot?

I'd have thought being married, parking an immobilised car with a tracker in a garage was the cheapest combination, but it's one of this companies' most expensive combinations.

Most odd to me. Anyone else found this?

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slomax

7,188 posts

214 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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Bear?

CraigyMc

Original Poster:

18,086 posts

258 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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slomax said:
Bear?
Yes dear


fatjon

2,298 posts

235 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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I suspect that they often load the what YOU think are the "right" answers to make more money. Cynical but probably true, having dealt with said large mammal.

citizen_smith

286 posts

207 months

Monday 15th November 2010
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I would suspect it's because many of the cars that are kept in garages and have trackers are the type that the insurance company have to payout a higher sum.

Noger

7,117 posts

271 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Insurance rating factors are not usually 1 dimensional, i.e. you don't just have "multiple by 0.2354 if your car is on the street".

It will probably be a combination of postcode, age and garaged field.

So for whatever reason, the combination of factors give rise to a lower claim cost. Could be a lot of multi car families, where the less used "local" car is on the road ? Who knows.

A205GTI

750 posts

188 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Also add your mum and dad as named drivers, drops the insurance down as well!!! oh and mileage limits, also tick yes to access to another car that helps.

Deluded

4,968 posts

213 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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I don't understand the whole milage thing. I could put that I do 1000miles a year yet they wouldn't know the difference if I did 50000. They don't ask for the cars mileage or MOT certificates each year to prove milage etc.

Whats the point in asking if anyone can just say anything.

I usualy say around 7k. No idea what I actually do though.

Noger

7,117 posts

271 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Deluded said:
I don't understand the whole milage thing. I could put that I do 1000miles a year yet they wouldn't know the difference if I did 50000. They don't ask for the cars mileage or MOT certificates each year to prove milage etc.

Whats the point in asking if anyone can just say anything.

I usualy say around 7k. No idea what I actually do though.
Until such time as you write off your car, then then inspecting engineer goes "blimey, this car is a bit leggy" then a loss adjuster goes back over all the MOT certs and service records. And it turns out you run a minicab business.

Chapppers

4,483 posts

213 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Deluded said:
I don't understand the whole milage thing. I could put that I do 1000miles a year yet they wouldn't know the difference if I did 50000. They don't ask for the cars mileage or MOT certificates each year to prove milage etc.

Whats the point in asking if anyone can just say anything.

I usualy say around 7k. No idea what I actually do though.
Ah, I said this to my dad and he replied "but they could ask to see it in the event of an accident."

You want to see some real anomalies?

My Noble was £18 cheaper than my Eunos Roadster to insure and £190 less than my Focus RS.


balls-out

3,794 posts

253 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Deluded said:
I don't understand the whole milage thing. I could put that I do 1000miles a year yet they wouldn't know the difference if I did 50000. .....
Ah - here's one that rings a bell.

As a keen motorcyclist, but not having a death-wish, I do a bit of reading up on accidents.

The figures appears pretty clear that higher mileage motorcyclist have less accidents than lower mileage one. It therefore WOULD make sense (for bike insurance at least) to charge more for lower mileage users and less for high mileage riders.

Bike figure may not equate well to 4 wheels, as they are affected by the inexperienced, sport-bike types who come out on Sunday mornings and demonstrate that bikers don't need card drivers to knock them off, all they need is a corner.

Stedman

7,375 posts

214 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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balls-out said:
Bike figure may not equate well to 4 wheels, as they are affected by the inexperienced, sport-bike types who come out on Sunday mornings and demonstrate that bikers don't need card drivers to knock them off, all they need is a slippery fart.
EFA wink

I've found insurance odd this year. Was £780 for parking my car in a secure underground garage...£730 for parking my car in a 'residential area'.

RIIIIIGHT.

Shmee

7,565 posts

235 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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A205GTI said:
also tick yes to access to another car that helps.
Bingo!

Just saved me £95, thank you very much!!

I do use another car, never really decided how much counts as regular, but I think I use it enough to be able to check that box so hey, thank you very much!!

New insurance due on Saturday and it just went down from £1600 to £1505 smile

Edited by Shmee on Tuesday 16th November 10:34

anonymous-user

76 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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The last time I was looking at prices the interesting thing that struck me was the variation across different engine sizes. Off the top of my head, for an E46 BMW:

320i - £650
323i - £670 (ish)
325i - £1050
328i and 330i = £700 confused

Maybe a lot of people bought 325i's and slid them into lamp posts.

SLacKer

2,622 posts

229 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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When I queried the higher cost for Garage parking they said that they get more claims from people hitting the wall or scraping a door etc. I did ask whether having a double width door helped to mitigate the risk but it didn't. I also asked of another associated insurer this year whether a Tracking device would reduce my premium much and it did by about £6.


Shmee

7,565 posts

235 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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SLacKer said:
I also asked of another associated insurer this year whether a Tracking device would reduce my premium much and it did by about £6.
Tracker costs me £245 py, reduces my premium by £225 py - paying £20 a year for that assurance is definitely worth it.

anonymous-user

76 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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Changing my job from student to consultant engineer reduced the premium on the African/Indian animal. Having children does too as far as I remember.

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

195 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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DR10 said:
Changing my job from student to consultant engineer reduced the premium on the African/Indian animal. Having children does too as far as I remember.
Having children increases the premium with elephant.

louismchuge

1,644 posts

206 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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ZOLLAR said:
DR10 said:
Changing my job from student to consultant engineer reduced the premium on the African/Indian animal. Having children does too as far as I remember.
Having children increases the premium with elephant.
NOOOO, HE SAID THE NAME!!!!!


Tsippy

15,078 posts

191 months

Tuesday 16th November 2010
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DR10 said:
Changing my job from student to consultant engineer reduced the premium on the African/Indian animal. Having children does too as far as I remember.
I found that declaring yourself just as 'engineer' rather than 'consultant engineer' adds £50 to the premium too.