Can the next 911 be fixed?

[j123]

All we hear year in and decade out is about the 911's steering: "its got great steering" or "the feel is unbelievable" etc....and now quite simply (unless they figured out how to make electric steering feel EXACTLY like hydraulic steering) the whiz bang new ELECTRIC steering will put an end to that- yes even Renault don't make 911 level steering.

Question will there be any way to REPLACE said electric steering system with the old hydraulic units? I'm sure the aftermarket big boys like ruf are thinking about this. Not saying it will be anything remotely easy. Maybe a 10 or 15k option?

Very sad though that the 911 will officially go numb in the hands for 2012. Xsadface

[thinfourth2]

Of for feck sake let them build the bloody car before slagging it off.

[Lordglenmorangie]

It's a real worry

[useyourdellusion]

It kept me awake all night too.

I'm sure they know what they're doing though...

[kambites]

They already moved the 911 (and Cayman/Boxster) a long way from the top of the steering quality stakes with the odd variable ratio rack they fit these days, IMO.

I dare say the next one will be good enough to sell, just like the last one, and that's all that matters to Porsche.

Edited by kambites on Sunday 28th November 09:25

[magnus911]

Not sure why but this thread reminded me of a line from a Jay-Z song.
Went a little something like this, '...want my old st, buy my old album'.

Anyone know what i mean?

[Chris_w666]

Not sure how a car that hasn't been driven by the press never mind the public, can have any issues with lack of steering feel.

That like starting a thread moaning that the MK4 ford focus has too little power and a small boot.

[thinfourth2]

Chris_w666 said:

Not sure how a car that hasn't been driven by the press never mind the public, can have any issues with lack of steering feel.

That like starting a thread moaning that the MK4 ford focus has too little power and a small boot.

And the Dilithium crystals in the Mk28 focus has serious reliability problems

[Chris_w666]

thinfourth2 said:

Chris_w666 said:

Not sure how a car that hasn't been driven by the press never mind the public, can have any issues with lack of steering feel.

That like starting a thread moaning that the MK4 ford focus has too little power and a small boot.

And the Dilithium crystals in the Mk28 focus has serious reliability problems

I hear that mountune are working on a replacement crystal set up using a combination of sodium chloride and krytonite.

[j123]

And yet all you fools will be chiming right along with the band when it comes out, "porsche Fu5ted up big time". Sorry if ya'll can't figure out. Most have poor imaginations. j

[thinfourth2]

j123 said:

And yet all you fools will be chiming right along with the band when it comes out, "porsche Fu5ted up big time". Sorry if ya'll can't figure out. Most have poor imaginations. j

i imagine the steering is completely wonderful

I imagine the lick operated controls on the windows may bother some though but not yourself

[Police State]

thinfourth2 said:

j123 said:

And yet all you fools will be chiming right along with the band when it comes out, "porsche Fu5ted up big time". Sorry if ya'll can't figure out. Most have poor imaginations. j

i imagine the steering is completely wonderful

I imagine the lick operated controls on the windows may bother some though but not yourself

It's a good question; but you would be better off posting it in the Porsche forum where people who have experience of owning/driving one will no doubt have a more considered opinion than the crap you received here.

[Disastrous]

j123 said:

And yet all you fools will be chiming right along with the band when it comes out, "porsche Fu5ted up big time". Sorry if ya'll can't figure out. Most have poor imaginations. j

Yes, after it has come out and people have driven it and decided whether the steering is st of or not.

O/T but does anyone else absolutely hate the headlights on the 2028 Honda Civic?

[Chris_w666]

j123 said:

And yet all you fools will be chiming right along with the band when it comes out, "porsche Fu5ted up big time". Sorry if ya'll can't figure out. Most have poor imaginations. j

Just thought about it and youre right. Also the Ferrari 472 has missed a trick by not fitting a V10 but instead going for hybrid diesel power.

[mattmoxon]

Disastrous said:

j123 said:

And yet all you fools will be chiming right along with the band when it comes out, "porsche Fu5ted up big time". Sorry if ya'll can't figure out. Most have poor imaginations. j

Yes, after it has come out and people have driven it and decided whether the steering is st of or not.

O/T but does anyone else absolutely hate the headlights on the 2028 Honda Civic?

bloody awful aren't they!!

I have driven a few hire cars with EPAS and yes it is less feel some than regular HPAS they weren't that bad when on the move, sure it was lifeless and light as a feather at low speeds but at normal driving speeds it wasn't that bad. I'm sure Porsche will find a way of feeding back what the front is doing to the driver so you needn't worry.

ETA: I doubt it would be an easy swap out to be honest. There is quite a bit of stuff with an HPAS unit so fitting it in a car not designed for it would probably cause problems, especially as the EPAS will be plumbed into the cars computer and the car will be designed to work with the EPAS.

Edited by mattmoxon on Sunday 28th November 17:54

[dudleybloke]

for of to decide i need you to buy me two 911's, 1 with hydraulic ps and 1 with electric ps and i'l let you know the result in a month or so.

[RDMcG]

I expect they will get it right; its too critical to the brand. On the other hand. i hate the new interior which looks like the Panamera, and is much too GT-like

[Jasandjules]

Is it broken?

[j123]

Jasandjules said:

Is it broken?

No its not.insertsmirk

and Porsche didn't ruin their reputation with the Van and the limo, no?

Whoever recommended I turn to Porsche forums I agree. Indeed its beginning to feel a lot like car magazine forums (look at the evo forum for god sake) and general forums like pistonheads might not be the place for real enthusiasts. J

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