renault megane
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jamie128

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1,604 posts

186 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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gti 2.0dci 150bhp


this is a quick diesel which is my second car of choice to get on finance over 5 years (i cant afford my price range car over a shorter term)


i would be getting a 07 reg with 33000 miles on the clock with full service history


opinions?

lost in espace

6,399 posts

223 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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Jamie are you sure you want a Renault? As someone said on the most useless thing in your car thread, "full Renault service history". Remember you will probably be deep in negative equity with this car, just when it goes wrong and you want rid. And then its going to cost you. My advice is buy cheaper and keep out of debt.

And go purchase some capital letters for your PC please.

xrv

544 posts

231 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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jamie128 said:
i cant afford my price range car over a shorter term
What?

Five year finance will always end badly. Especially with something french.

kiethton

14,276 posts

196 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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what i suggest is that you go and have a drive off all of the cars on your shortlist as you just may not get on with one of them...additionally don't pay too much attention to the reported problems with cars, especially the larger ones as with all things some may have these problems however the majority will be perfectly fine. I am sure that if you look deep enough and read enough owners summaries re. breakdowns, you will find a problem with almost every part of most cars, often things that can be prevented by maintenance or fluid checks, rover k series comes to mind.

jamie128

Original Poster:

1,604 posts

186 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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xrv said:
jamie128 said:
i cant afford my price range car over a shorter term
What?

Five year finance will always end badly. Especially with something french.
why? i will more than likely pay it off after 3 years, therefore saving interest, i have a wellish payed job

xrv

544 posts

231 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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jamie128 said:
xrv said:
jamie128 said:
i cant afford my price range car over a shorter term
What?

Five year finance will always end badly. Especially with something french.
why? i will more than likely pay it off after 3 years, therefore saving interest, i have a wellish payed job
You already said you cant afford it over a shorter term so how do you think you will pay it off in three years?
Your more likly to find yourself wanting to change in three years but unable to because of negative equity.

Also to my first point if you cant afford your price range over a shorter term then you are looking at the wrong price range.
I'm not trying to be nasty here but I have seen some people in a right mess over five year finance deals.

Edited by xrv on Wednesday 15th December 22:46

lost in espace

6,399 posts

223 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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jamie128 said:
xrv said:
jamie128 said:
i cant afford my price range car over a shorter term
What?

Five year finance will always end badly. Especially with something french.
why? i will more than likely pay it off after 3 years, therefore saving interest, i have a wellish payed job
Thats better! I would try to avoid 5 years on a bit of metal myself.

rufusgti

2,558 posts

208 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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You have a "wellish" payed job yet can only afford a renault megane on 5 year finance. This tells me your poor at money management, and wont have payed it off after 3 years. How old are you? Can't you buy a cheap car untill you can afford a newer model. We are not born with the right to own new cars. We are however brainwashed by credit companies to believe we are.

Fish981

1,441 posts

201 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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kiethton said:
what i suggest is that you go and have a drive off all of the cars on your shortlist as you just may not get on with one of them...additionally don't pay too much attention to the reported problems with cars, especially the larger ones as with all things some may have these problems however the majority will be perfectly fine. I am sure that if you look deep enough and read enough owners summaries re. breakdowns, you will find a problem with almost every part of most cars, often things that can be prevented by maintenance or fluid checks, rover k series comes to mind.
Reanault Megane diesels are unreliable, it's probably wise to pay attention to that.

EX51GE R

1,595 posts

226 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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swmbo's megane lunched the engine 2 months out of warranty, fsh, just had the belts etc done, renaults response, "well youve had 3 good years out of it, what do you expect" ! suffice to say i'd never buy another renault.

Fatman2

1,464 posts

185 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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kiethton said:
...additionally don't pay too much attention to the reported problems with cars,
You are kidding right? Please tell me you are being dry.


kiethton

14,276 posts

196 months

Wednesday 15th December 2010
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Fatman2 said:
kiethton said:
...additionally don't pay too much attention to the reported problems with cars,
You are kidding right? Please tell me you are being dry.
I probably phrased it slightly wrongly, but think about it if you research any car throughly you will find reported problems with almost every component. Some of these will be down to the manufacturer but others will be due to poor maintenance, mechanical mis-operation or neglect.

Every car is going to have problems reported by owners, some being more vocal than others so specific problems can be blown out of proportion. Yes listen to the reviews to an extent but even with the most commonly reported problems on cars for every car that has this fault there will be another 9 that don't. If it was a problem which effected every car the manufacturer would be forced to recall and modify the sold cars.

In summary yes pay the reviews some attention to gauge possible problems and steps on how to spot them/prevent them but you can't rule out every example of a model due to a possible problem. if this was the case nobody would be able to buy anything.

TL1000R

118 posts

186 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Having worked in the dealer networks for some years now for Renault, Nissan, Honda and VW I can tell you that no matter what you pay or what it's called all cars go wrong. They are all riddled with silly little faults and sometimes larger ones pop up too. From the time I've spent working with them I would say that the Renault is no worse than anything else, people are just less open about telling each other that their £25k VW is an over priced dog. Buy the car you can afford and want. The only thing thats worth thinking about is what it's gonna be worth in 3/5 years time. That's when the Renault isn't going to be the car to own.

Fatman2

1,464 posts

185 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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kiethton said:
Fatman2 said:
kiethton said:
...additionally don't pay too much attention to the reported problems with cars,
You are kidding right? Please tell me you are being dry.
I probably phrased it slightly wrongly, but think about it if you research any car throughly you will find reported problems with almost every component. Some of these will be down to the manufacturer but others will be due to poor maintenance, mechanical mis-operation or neglect.

Every car is going to have problems reported by owners, some being more vocal than others so specific problems can be blown out of proportion. Yes listen to the reviews to an extent but even with the most commonly reported problems on cars for every car that has this fault there will be another 9 that don't. If it was a problem which effected every car the manufacturer would be forced to recall and modify the sold cars.

In summary yes pay the reviews some attention to gauge possible problems and steps on how to spot them/prevent them but you can't rule out every example of a model due to a possible problem. if this was the case nobody would be able to buy anything.
In principle I think you're right but French cars have a bad reputation for a reason. I've owned a Peugeot before and it literally fell to bits as it headed towards 80k miles. I've owned an MR2, which has also done 80k miles and has only needed regular servicing. It's true I may have been lucky/unlucky but having owned more and more Japanese cars, one thing that's been typical is that they rarely go wrong and when they do, the garage sorts it out with no trouble whatsoever. Sadly with my non Japanese cars they have all tended to have been much more unreliable and much more complicated to repair.

I also know a lot of people that own French cars and they mostly have horror stories regarding the car and dealerships. I realise that it's difficult to quantify but there really does appear to be more unhappy French car owners than any other brand. Hence them being at the bottom of almost every survey carried out.

If that's not conclusive then, by your rationale, the typical buyer of French cars must be rubbish at general car maintenance LOL wink

Chris_w666

22,655 posts

215 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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I only know 4 people who have owned meganes, 3 of them were diesel. The diesels broke more.

5 year finance makes no sense on a car that is already nearly 4 years old.

2000 GTV

68 posts

177 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Not a bad engine and no dpf.

SonicHedgeHog

2,588 posts

198 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Perhaps the OP could let us know the amount of money he is intending to borrow over five years and the interest rate he has been offered? We can then show him in black and white figures how expensive this finance deal really is.

To the OP: even though you don't want to hear this the deal you have been offered will be appalling. You would almost certainly be better off buying a new car with good residuals on a 0% finance deal. Your Megane will be 8-9 years old at the end of the finance deal and will be next to worthless and will have cost you a fortune. You sound like a young fella and young fellas never want to be told what to do, just like middle aged fellas and grumpy old fellas don't either. But in this case please listen and do not buy this car.

STW2010

5,864 posts

178 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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jamie128 said:
i cant afford my price range car over a shorter term
Then lower the price range and hence the loan term. I have suggested this on you Astra thread.

For £4k you could get a very good car, which could last you 3 years. I currently drive an 11 year old car and don't plan on changing it for another 2-3 years.

STW2010

5,864 posts

178 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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SonicHedgeHog said:
Perhaps the OP could let us know the amount of money he is intending to borrow over five years and the interest rate he has been offered? We can then show him in black and white figures how expensive this finance deal really is.

To the OP: even though you don't want to hear this the deal you have been offered will be appalling. You would almost certainly be better off buying a new car with good residuals on a 0% finance deal. Your Megane will be 8-9 years old at the end of the finance deal and will be next to worthless and will have cost you a fortune. You sound like a young fella and young fellas never want to be told what to do, just like middle aged fellas and grumpy old fellas don't either. But in this case please listen and do not buy this car.
Very good advice there. I also understand the attraction of getting a near-new shiny car, so do consider the alternative (and cheaper) options.

Fetchez la vache

5,796 posts

230 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Peoples experiences will always vary, but of all the car makes I've owned, I've only vowed never to own one of those makes again. Yep, a Renault.