Wheeler revs up to sell TVR for £15M
Wheeler revs up to sell TVR for £15M
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sheepy

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3,164 posts

271 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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Sunday Telegraph Business News said:
TVR, the maker of cult sports cars, has been put up for sale by Peter Wheeler, the entrepreneur, for about £15M. Wheeler, who has owned the business for the past twenty-two years, is understood to have approached a number of possible buyers, including a wealthy American financier. Another potential bidder is thought to be Creighton Brown, a motor racing vetran who was once joint owner with Ron Dennis of McLaren international, the Forumla One racing team. In the past Wheeler has tried and failed to sell the business to Alchemy Pertners, the private equity form led by Jon Moulton which came close to buying MG Rover. TVR, which is based in Blackpool and made its forst car in 1949, is famous for its supercars, which are all built to the individual customer's specifications. The company's flagship car is the Tuscan S, which has a top speed of 195mph.


So given the population of PH, I calculate that the £15M price tag would be less than a grand each (and leave enough cash left to develop the next model!). So: Who's up for it?

Also, how exactly does the top speed of the Tuscan add to this report?

Sheepy

chaparral

965 posts

281 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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I'll buy in with $2000.

JamieBeeston

9,294 posts

287 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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£15m seems very very low, does anyone have any clues as to why ?

Are TVR in Money troules? I assume PW owns 100% ?

just strikes me as far too low..

:dunno:

ace-t

8,270 posts

277 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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Wasn't it the Telegraph that slagged Peter Wheeler off and that was why Ted got the interview with him to give him a chance to reply?

So it does not make sense that the Telegraph would have 'exclusive rights' to a story like that. Seems to me that it is a slow motoring news day and they are possibly resurrecting old rumours or simply making it up (all IMHO of course).

I think I will wait for Mr Wheeler to make a proper statement about whether he is going to sell or not before I believe anything written in the tabloids. Yes I used that description deliberately. There are NO quality papers left now.

Ace-T

crazylegs

482 posts

265 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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I was reading the review of the T350 in the Telegraph a couple of weeks ago. The guy clearly wasn't keen on it which is fair enough, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but this statement made me lose any faith in anything he'd written.

Andrew English said:
You have to concentrate to keep the car on track, even on a motorway.


I suppose you prefer a car where you can safely fall asleep at the wheel then?


julianhj

8,858 posts

284 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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I'd be very skeptical (sp?) of that rumour - they can't even get the flagship model right!

Besides, why would PW want to sell? And as has been said, £15M does seem to be giving the shop away...

Quash the rumours!

Podie

46,647 posts

297 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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The Telegraph guy Andrew English wrote a bad report about the Griff years ago, and was basically barred from ever driving one from the factory IIRC.

They gave him a T350C, and he wrote another report... moaning about things like the boot hinges and the fuel filler - which everyone else has praised for their design... I just think he doesn't "get" TVR's...

As for the rumour.. sounds like a lot og bx to me...

gearboxman

25 posts

261 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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I think the Sunday Telegraph needs to get a spell-checker

sheepy

Original Poster:

3,164 posts

271 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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gearboxman said:
I think the Sunday Telegraph needs to get a spell-checker
Nah, more like I need to type the report in correctly (couldn't find an on-line version).

FWIW, £15M seems a little bit low. However I don't think that the motoring department (ie Andrew English) hating TVR would really have an effect on the Business Dept writiing speculative stories.

Anyone know any more on this, or is it just an excuse for the Sunday Torygraph to print a piccy of a yellow TVR!

Sheepy

Gaffer

7,156 posts

299 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2004/05/02/cntvr02.xml&menuId=242&sSheet=/money/2004/05/02/ixcity.html

Wheeler revs up to find a buyer for £15m TVR
By Grant Ringshaw (Filed: 02/05/2004)


TVR, the maker of cult sports cars, has been put up for sale by Peter Wheeler, the entrepreneur, for about £15m. Wheeler, who has owned the business for the past 22 years, is understood to have approached a number of possible buyers, including a wealthy American financier.

Another potential bidder is thought to be Creighton Brown, a motor racing veteran who was once joint owner with Ron Dennis of McLaren International, the Formula One racing team. In the past Wheeler had tried and failed to sell the business to Alchemy Partners, the private equity firm led by Jon Moulton which came close to buying MG Rover.

TVR, which is based in Blackpool and made its first car in 1949, is famous for its supercars, which are all built to the individual customer's specifications. The company's flagship car is the Tuscan S, which has a top speed of 195mph.


Claire

gearboxman

25 posts

261 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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Shame, if we'd had someone at Croft today, they could have asked him themselves

jigs

1,840 posts

272 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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It reckon it's probably true - he's taken TVR as far as he can and with the never-ending Speed Six problems getting out makes sense.

Apache

39,731 posts

306 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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Sounds like more anti TVR nonsense from that petty child English. No news? I'll make something up and I'll take the opportunity to have a pop at TVR cos they don't like me and were nasty.

gearboxman

25 posts

261 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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As a p.s. to the last post, I've just spoken to one of the Tuscan drivers.
He's been racing at Croft this weekend.
He's heard nothing.......

Big_M

5,602 posts

285 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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Can't be very nice for the TVR employees to read this sort of stuff in the press - whether it is true or not. I hope it is not - I am sure PW has still got the energy left to continue with TVR for a few more years yet.

Podie

46,647 posts

297 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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jigs said:
It reckon it's probably true - he's taken TVR as far as he can and with me wittering on about the Speed Six, getting out makes sense.








beano500

20,854 posts

297 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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jigs talking the price down - as usual!!!

Alf Essex

1,467 posts

283 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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beano500 said:



jigs talking the price down - as usual!!!


bitter to the end...

Supersonic

1,163 posts

284 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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beano500 said:
jigs talking the price down - as usual!!!
Jigs being boring and repetitive - as usual!!!

williamp

20,095 posts

295 months

Sunday 2nd May 2004
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gearboxman said:
As a p.s. to the last post, I've just spoken to one of the Tuscan drivers.
He's been racing at Croft this weekend.
He's heard nothing.......


Mind you, if he's "just" a driver he wont know what goes on in the boardroom.

I agree with the above- £15Million does sound cheap, though...