Massas drive thru
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Correct me if I'm wrong but Massa was penalised for having 4 wheels to the left of the pit entrance line as he negotiated the final turn at Sãn Paulo ?
If this is so then why did the officials not penalise Vettel who did the same as he cruised up to the chequered flag on the last lap?
If this is so then why did the officials not penalise Vettel who did the same as he cruised up to the chequered flag on the last lap?
I think this shows three things:
1) The drivers' general nonchalant attitude to track limits unless there is a damaging impact as a result.
2) The fact that the rule should be NO wheels over artificial, painted track limits to avoid confusion. Treat white lines limits like a wall.
3) Massa's stupidity to blame someone else for his lack of capability to understand the rules and the warnings he received prior to the penalty when he transgressed them.
I know this was a mid-track pit lane limit, but it remains a track limit which many drivers ignored. One very stupid driver ignored the warnings, resulting in him getting a penalty, whinging and blaming everyone else but himself as usual. He really should listen to someone who has said this type of thing in the past...
"He could have caused a big accident. I tried to talk to him but he doesn't listen. It's important that FIA is looking and penalising him all the time. He's paying for it because he had the drive through. But he can't listen, he can't understand, he doesn't learn anything. That's the problem."
...oh, hang on a sec, that WAS Massa saying that.
1) The drivers' general nonchalant attitude to track limits unless there is a damaging impact as a result.
2) The fact that the rule should be NO wheels over artificial, painted track limits to avoid confusion. Treat white lines limits like a wall.
3) Massa's stupidity to blame someone else for his lack of capability to understand the rules and the warnings he received prior to the penalty when he transgressed them.
I know this was a mid-track pit lane limit, but it remains a track limit which many drivers ignored. One very stupid driver ignored the warnings, resulting in him getting a penalty, whinging and blaming everyone else but himself as usual. He really should listen to someone who has said this type of thing in the past...
"He could have caused a big accident. I tried to talk to him but he doesn't listen. It's important that FIA is looking and penalising him all the time. He's paying for it because he had the drive through. But he can't listen, he can't understand, he doesn't learn anything. That's the problem."
...oh, hang on a sec, that WAS Massa saying that.
oyster said:
SmoothCriminal said:
When he got that penalty it was music to my ears little cry baby
Glad to see children enjoy F1 too.On a point of technicality, most F1 WDCs also cry - are they worthy of your ire as well? (Schumacher, Hakkinen, Vettel, Prost, etc)
Perhaps Autosport general F1 forum might be aligned to your maturity of debate. Or the playground….
ash73 said:
The penalty was daft imo. There was no doubt he went over the hatched area, I remember thinking it was a bit marginal at the time, but the warnings were only given after the stewards saw his chase with Lewis, iirc?
A drive through versus 1-2 tenths benefit? He was battling Merc in the WCC, it was the last race of the season; and his last race for Ferrari in front of tens of thousands of Brazilian fans.
I'd rather Charlie came on the radio and gave him a b
king in that sitution, rather than robbing us of an exciting race between him and Lewis.
Rules is rules and he was warned. It was made very clear in the drivers briefing. He has nil defence i'm afraid.A drive through versus 1-2 tenths benefit? He was battling Merc in the WCC, it was the last race of the season; and his last race for Ferrari in front of tens of thousands of Brazilian fans.
I'd rather Charlie came on the radio and gave him a b
king in that sitution, rather than robbing us of an exciting race between him and Lewis.To be honest, I am confused as to why he did it. Its Brazil and hes Brazilian?
ash73 said:
The penalty was daft imo. There was no doubt he went over the hatched area, I remember thinking it was a bit marginal at the time, but the warnings were only given after the stewards saw his chase with Lewis, iirc?
A drive through versus 1-2 tenths benefit? He was battling Merc in the WCC, it was the last race of the season; and his last race for Ferrari in front of tens of thousands of Brazilian fans.
I'd rather Charlie came on the radio and gave him a bking in that sitution, rather than robbing us of an exciting race between him and Lewis.
I understand that several drivers all got warnings first from race control. Webber was warned as well.A drive through versus 1-2 tenths benefit? He was battling Merc in the WCC, it was the last race of the season; and his last race for Ferrari in front of tens of thousands of Brazilian fans.
I'd rather Charlie came on the radio and gave him a b
king in that sitution, rather than robbing us of an exciting race between him and Lewis.has anyone considered possibility that this was a calculated move by Massa to ensure Ferrari didn't finish 2nd in constructors championship as a subtle yet painful riposte to their perceived poor treatment of him over the last couple of seasons?
No? Just me then.
I'll get my tinfoil hat and coat...
No? Just me then.
I'll get my tinfoil hat and coat...
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