British Gp, Silverstone 2020 +
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Not much of a play beyond the obvious. Britain is the king of F1. Removing this race would be like stitching the snatch of a prostitute. It will always be on, regardless of fear mongering. And I will always be there supporting our own as I have done for the last 30 years.
Edited by mattikake on Saturday 6th April 00:55
mattikake said:
Not much of a play beyond the obvious. Britain is the king of F1. Removing this race would be like stitching the snatch of a prostitute. It will always be on, regardless of fear mongering. And I will always be there supporting our own as I have done for the last 30 years.
Eloquently put Edited by mattikake on Saturday 6th April 00:55
I do wonder if the new Liberty style of presenting F1 globally may at some point detach it from its British origins.. but for now Silverstone remains on the map and will be supported and maintained by the sport. It's just a shame we have to go through the 'last year at Silverstone' debate every year.
I would be happy, yes happy to see F1 leave Britain, might make the sport wake up and realise what is going on, that money alone should not be the sole reason for a country to host GP's. it should be the track primarily, and we all know Silverstone is by far and away not the best track in Britain.
Silverstone is a dump compared to most tracks, the Wing is a disaster, used about 4 times a year for racing, the rest of it is still an old airfield.
Preposterously high ticket prices, yet for some reason tens of thousands of lemmings trot it out every year, "because of the atmosphere".
Sorry I have experienced a better buzz at a 15 quid stock car meeting at Skegness.
I get it, it's not for me, but to moan and b
h that this happens every year is silly, it happens because the people who want it make crap deals. That bankrupt the place for years on end. Let it go, let Silverstone become a better place instead of having this dead weight GP tied to it's back for evermore
Silverstone is a dump compared to most tracks, the Wing is a disaster, used about 4 times a year for racing, the rest of it is still an old airfield.
Preposterously high ticket prices, yet for some reason tens of thousands of lemmings trot it out every year, "because of the atmosphere".
Sorry I have experienced a better buzz at a 15 quid stock car meeting at Skegness.
I get it, it's not for me, but to moan and b
h that this happens every year is silly, it happens because the people who want it make crap deals. That bankrupt the place for years on end. Let it go, let Silverstone become a better place instead of having this dead weight GP tied to it's back for evermorechunder27 said:
I would be happy, yes happy to see F1 leave Britain, might make the sport wake up and realise what is going on, that money alone should not be the sole reason for a country to host GP's. it should be the track primarily, and we all know Silverstone is by far and away not the best track in Britain.
Silverstone is a dump compared to most tracks, the Wing is a disaster, used about 4 times a year for racing, the rest of it is still an old airfield.
Preposterously high ticket prices, yet for some reason tens of thousands of lemmings trot it out every year, "because of the atmosphere".
Sorry I have experienced a better buzz at a 15 quid stock car meeting at Skegness.
I get it, it's not for me, but to moan and bh that this happens every year is silly, it happens because the people who want it make crap deals. That bankrupt the place for years on end. Let it go, let Silverstone become a better place instead of having this dead weight GP tied to it's back for evermore
The tickets are high because Silverstone isn't funded by the Government, like so many other tracks are. Look at Mexico at the moment with their government pulling funding. So actually the prices reflect the nature of the sport in general. If you want the race in your country you have to pay for it. Silverstone is a dump compared to most tracks, the Wing is a disaster, used about 4 times a year for racing, the rest of it is still an old airfield.
Preposterously high ticket prices, yet for some reason tens of thousands of lemmings trot it out every year, "because of the atmosphere".
Sorry I have experienced a better buzz at a 15 quid stock car meeting at Skegness.
I get it, it's not for me, but to moan and b
h that this happens every year is silly, it happens because the people who want it make crap deals. That bankrupt the place for years on end. Let it go, let Silverstone become a better place instead of having this dead weight GP tied to it's back for evermoreI've not yet managed to get to Silverstone for one reason or another. BUT I would love it if they ditched it and brought to Birmingham. We had the Super Prix, and apparently our Mayor thinks we're good enough to host the Commonwealth Games AND get 5G at
I bet you, if it happened, we'd even promise NOT to steal all the tools from the mechanics like we did last time we had a race. We might not stick to that promise, but don't let that put you off.
chunder27 said:
I would be happy, yes happy to see F1 leave Britain, might make the sport wake up and realise what is going on, that money alone should not be the sole reason for a country to host GP's. it should be the track primarily, and we all know Silverstone is by far and away not the best track in Britain.
Silverstone is a dump compared to most tracks, the Wing is a disaster, used about 4 times a year for racing, the rest of it is still an old airfield.
Preposterously high ticket prices, yet for some reason tens of thousands of lemmings trot it out every year, "because of the atmosphere".
Sorry I have experienced a better buzz at a 15 quid stock car meeting at Skegness.
I get it, it's not for me, but to moan and bh that this happens every year is silly, it happens because the people who want it make crap deals. That bankrupt the place for years on end. Let it go, let Silverstone become a better place instead of having this dead weight GP tied to it's back for evermore
Quite obviously you don't like |Silverstone...... thats perfectly ok. But what you write is complete bSilverstone is a dump compared to most tracks, the Wing is a disaster, used about 4 times a year for racing, the rest of it is still an old airfield.
Preposterously high ticket prices, yet for some reason tens of thousands of lemmings trot it out every year, "because of the atmosphere".
Sorry I have experienced a better buzz at a 15 quid stock car meeting at Skegness.
I get it, it's not for me, but to moan and b
h that this happens every year is silly, it happens because the people who want it make crap deals. That bankrupt the place for years on end. Let it go, let Silverstone become a better place instead of having this dead weight GP tied to it's back for evermoreks! Please tell us, which circuit in the UK could possibly hold an F1 race and do it better than Silverstone.... without loads of expensive redevelopment, planning issues, noise issues, traffic issues? Donnington... nope. Outlon Park... nope, Brands Hatch.... nope, Snetterton....err nope.... I know.... how about knockhill??????
I would really love to know where you think it could be held and the reasons why it would work and how the traffic would be managed?
every time I go to see the GP, i'm always impressed with how the place is turned out. It always looks good and always has one of the best atmospheres. And it's always nice to see every seat in every Grandstand on every corner packed. Unlike 90% of the other circuits.
super7 said:
Quite obviously you don't like |Silverstone...... thats perfectly ok. But what you write is complete bks! Please tell us, which circuit in the UK could
possibly hold an F1 race and do it better than Silverstone.... without loads of expensive redevelopment, planning issues, noise issues, traffic issues? Donnington... nope. Outlon Park... nope, Brands Hatch.... nope, Snetterton....err nope.... I know.... how about knockhill??????
I would really love to know where you think it could be held and the reasons why it would work and how the traffic would be managed?
every time I go to see the GP, i'm always impressed with how the place is turned out. It always looks good and always has one of the best atmospheres. And it's always nice to see every seat in every Grandstand on every corner packed. Unlike 90% of the other circuits.
It won't be one of the MSV circuits either as he hates them and JP.... so you could be on with Knockhill or maybe Mallory? ks! Please tell us, which circuit in the UK could possibly hold an F1 race and do it better than Silverstone.... without loads of expensive redevelopment, planning issues, noise issues, traffic issues? Donnington... nope. Outlon Park... nope, Brands Hatch.... nope, Snetterton....err nope.... I know.... how about knockhill??????
I would really love to know where you think it could be held and the reasons why it would work and how the traffic would be managed?
every time I go to see the GP, i'm always impressed with how the place is turned out. It always looks good and always has one of the best atmospheres. And it's always nice to see every seat in every Grandstand on every corner packed. Unlike 90% of the other circuits.
Cyder said:
I'd like to see them at Castle Combe, how many would bin it under braking at Quarry on lap one.
Been there and done it..... Caterham Grads race back in 2000. Thought i'd do Avon rise flat out before braking for Quarry... that went wrong and ended up in the tyre wall :-)Did manage to finish the race with qtr of a steering wheel in play before the front wheels moved!
Silverstone is the only venue in the UK that's anywhere near the right size for F1.
Most other circuits in the UK would make the red bull ring look like the old nurburgring in terms of lap time.
I'd rather they didn't butcher any other circuit just for F1. As what works for F1 doesn't necessarily work for track days, club racing and certainly not spectating.
Most other circuits in the UK would make the red bull ring look like the old nurburgring in terms of lap time.
I'd rather they didn't butcher any other circuit just for F1. As what works for F1 doesn't necessarily work for track days, club racing and certainly not spectating.
The UK curse of being one of the first to cater for racing. Lot's of converted airfields and micky mouse tracks.
Once cars and bikes got fast and safety became high profile they are all pretty useless now for F1 and Motogp.
Must be some real conflict with local authorities as well to explain how half of brooklands has a housing estate built over it and brands hatch backing on to housing.
What happened to the welsh scam track that won the motogp contract a few years back?
Once cars and bikes got fast and safety became high profile they are all pretty useless now for F1 and Motogp.
Must be some real conflict with local authorities as well to explain how half of brooklands has a housing estate built over it and brands hatch backing on to housing.
What happened to the welsh scam track that won the motogp contract a few years back?
WonkeyDonkey said:
Silverstone is the only venue in the UK that's anywhere near the right size for F1.
Most other circuits in the UK would make the red bull ring look like the old nurburgring in terms of lap time.
I'd rather they didn't butcher any other circuit just for F1. As what works for F1 doesn't necessarily work for track days, club racing and certainly not spectating.
I've always understood it to be Silverstone or nowhere, based on this. I'm also fairly certain Silverstone play the hand in cap routine so publicly in the hope of some giant cash grant to transform the place. I wonder what foreign viewers think when the Silverstone race comes around? Obviously it's at least slightly interesting if you're British.. I suspect that compared to the settings and sparkle of other tracks around the world it's less of an excitement overseas...Most other circuits in the UK would make the red bull ring look like the old nurburgring in terms of lap time.
I'd rather they didn't butcher any other circuit just for F1. As what works for F1 doesn't necessarily work for track days, club racing and certainly not spectating.
Perhaps we need a Thames Estuary track in place of the airport that has been proposed and not built for the past 80 years..? That would be a decent setting, and I recall there was a fairly solid proposal for a floating airport so... we'll have a floating race circuit please. that's how you get the British F1 weekend back on the map! Also no need for run-offs...
super7 said:
Please tell us, which circuit in the UK could possibly hold an F1 race and do it better than Silverstone.... without loads of expensive redevelopment, planning issues, noise issues, traffic issues? Donnington... nope. Outlon Park... nope, Brands Hatch.... nope, Snetterton....err nope.... I know.... how about knockhill??????
None, but there is not an inherent right for the UK to host a race. They are all poor at the F1 level.I've been to quite a few races. I even went to Silverstone as a guest of a team (full access) and I was underwhelmed versus Spa and Monza where I had a mere GA or grandstand ticket.
n3il123 said:
super7 said:
Quite obviously you don't like |Silverstone...... thats perfectly ok. But what you write is complete bks! Please tell us, which circuit in the UK could
possibly hold an F1 race and do it better than Silverstone.... without loads of expensive redevelopment, planning issues, noise issues, traffic issues? Donnington... nope. Outlon Park... nope, Brands Hatch.... nope, Snetterton....err nope.... I know.... how about knockhill??????
I would really love to know where you think it could be held and the reasons why it would work and how the traffic would be managed?
every time I go to see the GP, i'm always impressed with how the place is turned out. It always looks good and always has one of the best atmospheres. And it's always nice to see every seat in every Grandstand on every corner packed. Unlike 90% of the other circuits.
It won't be one of the MSV circuits either as he hates them and JP.... so you could be on with Knockhill or maybe Mallory? ks! Please tell us, which circuit in the UK could possibly hold an F1 race and do it better than Silverstone.... without loads of expensive redevelopment, planning issues, noise issues, traffic issues? Donnington... nope. Outlon Park... nope, Brands Hatch.... nope, Snetterton....err nope.... I know.... how about knockhill??????
I would really love to know where you think it could be held and the reasons why it would work and how the traffic would be managed?
every time I go to see the GP, i'm always impressed with how the place is turned out. It always looks good and always has one of the best atmospheres. And it's always nice to see every seat in every Grandstand on every corner packed. Unlike 90% of the other circuits.
hes about anything racing most of the time.FFS, dont mention Dorna or Motogp.....
Good news to see a British GP staying on the calendar, but then we get this same saga every time the contract is up for renewal! 
From a spectating point of view I'd rate Donnington or Brands mush higher than Silverstone, but I realise with the need for run-off, etc. in F1 that would be a huge challenge - and probably cost prohibitive.
Shame though. I've done track days at all of them and also much preferred driving Donnington and Brands GP to Silverstone GP.
From a spectating point of view I'd rate Donnington or Brands mush higher than Silverstone, but I realise with the need for run-off, etc. in F1 that would be a huge challenge - and probably cost prohibitive.
Shame though. I've done track days at all of them and also much preferred driving Donnington and Brands GP to Silverstone GP.
I think with investment Donington is the only venue likely to be able to hold an F1 race, but the logistics around attendance and travel would suggest not.
I do not like much what you people perceive as normal racing no, most of it is over rated and expensive, I watch much lower level stuff.
Plus I can;t see the point in blowing smoke up anythings ass, so only comment when there is something negative going on, or to simply put another side to an argument.
Personally I feel Silverstone could possibly benefit from the lack of an F1 race for a few years, give them time to generate some profit and go back to Liberty and negotiate a much, better more profitable or them deal.
Or just leave it, it's not the end of the world, F1 venue selection has moved away from clubs like the BRDC and on to rich countries who want to use it as a sales pitch, regardless of interest. And maybe those sheep that go every year might do 4 or 5 other meetings at nice places with the money.
I don't see why F1 cannot have a percentage of venues or countries that are sacrosanct, and then a majority of venues open to the highest bidder. But right now they are all open to the highest bidder, and Dorna are getting that way to with MotoGP.
I do not like much what you people perceive as normal racing no, most of it is over rated and expensive, I watch much lower level stuff.
Plus I can;t see the point in blowing smoke up anythings ass, so only comment when there is something negative going on, or to simply put another side to an argument.
Personally I feel Silverstone could possibly benefit from the lack of an F1 race for a few years, give them time to generate some profit and go back to Liberty and negotiate a much, better more profitable or them deal.
Or just leave it, it's not the end of the world, F1 venue selection has moved away from clubs like the BRDC and on to rich countries who want to use it as a sales pitch, regardless of interest. And maybe those sheep that go every year might do 4 or 5 other meetings at nice places with the money.
I don't see why F1 cannot have a percentage of venues or countries that are sacrosanct, and then a majority of venues open to the highest bidder. But right now they are all open to the highest bidder, and Dorna are getting that way to with MotoGP.
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