Why is the US GP not held at Daytona? It seems obvious to me
Why is the US GP not held at Daytona? It seems obvious to me
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DOCG

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714 posts

70 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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The road course version of Daytona as used for the 24 hours of Daytona, a much better track than that dump in Texas.

Evangelion

8,080 posts

194 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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What's wrong with Road America and Laguna Seca?

DOCG

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714 posts

70 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Evangelion said:
What's wrong with Road America and Laguna Seca?
Good tracks but lack of facilities for a major event.

thegreenhell

20,012 posts

235 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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None of them have the required FIA licence grade 1 needed to host F1. Only COTA and Indy meet this standard in the US.

Laguna Seca and Road America in particular are more like club circuits compared to what F1 expects in terms of facilities and safety. Both would be completely destroyed in getting them to F1 standard. Laguna is also too short, and massively overrated.

kambites

69,816 posts

237 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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Would the current tyres survive that much high-speed banking? Eventhe "road" circuit uses both ends of the ovel doesn't it?

DOCG

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714 posts

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Thursday 13th August 2020
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kambites said:
Would the current tyres survive that much high-speed banking? Eventhe "road" circuit uses both ends of the ovel doesn't it?
Yes but at much lower speeds than if you are just running oval due to slower down greatly twice in the lap.

nikaiyo2

5,400 posts

211 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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kambites said:
Would the current tyres survive that much high-speed banking? Eventhe "road" circuit uses both ends of the ovel doesn't it?
Just run them at 50psi like NASCAR biggrin

Europa1

10,923 posts

204 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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OP, what is it about COTA that makes it "a dump" in your opinion?

DOCG

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Thursday 13th August 2020
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Europa1 said:
OP, what is it about COTA that makes it "a dump" in your opinion?
A boring track with no character, all the corners are just copied from other circuits like Silverstone or Instanbul

DanielSan

19,503 posts

183 months

Thursday 13th August 2020
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DOCG said:
A boring track with no character, all the corners are just copied from other circuits like Silverstone or Instanbul
So corners taken from 2 of the greatest tracks F1 has been to/goes to combined make it a terrible track? Can I have some of what you're smoking? Especially as the Daytona infield circuit is utter gash. It's short straights into tight hairpins that's it, people just get caught up on the banking being so steep.

Evangelion

8,080 posts

194 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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thegreenhell said:
... Laguna Seca and Road America in particular are more like club circuits compared to what F1 expects in terms of facilities and safety. Both would be completely destroyed in getting them to F1 standard. Laguna is also too short, and massively overrated.
Fair enough then. I'd never want to see a perfectly good track butchered (like Spa, Hockenheim, Silverstone etc) just so they can hold a F1 race there.. That's why I'm glad they don't go to Brands any more.

HustleRussell

25,659 posts

176 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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I like COTA and people seem to be positive about it as a spectator experience.

HardtopManual

2,729 posts

182 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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I'm not sure what you expect to get at Daytona that COTA doesn't provide, other than a pointlessly steep banking that isn't taken at particularly high speed.

Daytona is also flat as a pancake.

Edited by HardtopManual on Friday 14th August 10:40

Mark-C

6,722 posts

221 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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DOCG said:
Europa1 said:
OP, what is it about COTA that makes it "a dump" in your opinion?
A boring track with no character, all the corners are just copied from other circuits like Silverstone or Instanbul
You should go - it's a great experience with good viewing points. I haven't been to Daytona for many (20ish) years but it was just a soulless concrete mess with beer and hotdog stands dotted around it ...

leef44

4,995 posts

169 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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I like COTA, it offers elevation and wide track into sharp bends which allow different lines to be taken which make it challenging for the drivers to defend.

StevieBee

14,277 posts

271 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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DOCG said:
a much better track than that dump in Texas.
I'm really not having a go at you but your belief that Daytona would be better than Austin and that Austin is a dump really seals the deal on the fact that F1 isn't for you and probably, neither is motor sport.



Europa1

10,923 posts

204 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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I have to say, OP, it doesn't seem obvious at all to me.

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

62 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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I get this, but it surely was the same question linked to indy, and that track was fairly tame featureless, yet provided us the odd good race even before DRS because of that long corner and straight. The elephant int he room obviously being the 6 car race.

But the infield was horrible surely!

Daytona has enough big events, two Nascar races, the 24. Supercross

DOCG

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714 posts

70 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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HardtopManual said:


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I'm not sure what you expect to get at Daytona that COTA doesn't provide, other than a pointlessly steep banking that isn't taken at particularly high speed.

Daytona is also flat as a pancake.

Edited by HardtopManual on Friday 14th August 10:40
Two great long high-speed "straights", unlike anything else in F1. And hopefully they would go through the banked sections with DRS open.

kambites

69,816 posts

237 months

Friday 14th August 2020
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I guess the question would be whether the banking is "straight" enough for the to follow closely on. If they ended up stuck 5 cars lengths back on the banking, there's few other obvious oportunities to overtake.