EJ12 Chassis No 1 Experience

[dgmx5]

I know too little to know how genuine this is, but thought some on here may be interested:

https://driftlimits.co.uk/experience/jordan-f1-gif...

[anonymous-user]

the dream....



the reality.....

[Turn7]

I tested my Fury on that airfield, 2003....

I was looking at the website and they do big themselves up quite a lot.

I'd want some big fast corners if I was paying that amount to drive an old F1 car.

[essayer]

“There is no Collision Damage Waiver available for this experience & a refundable security deposit must be paid”

hmm

[TheDeuce]

essayer said:

“There is no Collision Damage Waiver available for this experience & a refundable security deposit must be paid”

hmm

Christ, how big must the deposit be!? My neighbour repairs old F1 car bodywork after damage in the classics and knowing his hourly rate and the weeks the cars can spend in there... I'm guessing £10k for a minor un-bending, given that it all has to remain as close as possible to original and they can't take time or material shortcuts due to the value of the car. In addition to going over the road to BRM's old factory for whatever mechanical needs replacing.

You could probably run up a £30k bill after a gentle barrier touch that you thought you'd gotten away with!

[Thundersports]

That car was in Sweden and used as a experience car it's running a F3000 rear end.

[AJB88]

I got given one of their experiences few years ago, track is tiny. and yeh its got a f3000 rear end V8 3.0

[TheDeuce]

Or this one? https://youtu.be/aA0XjK70LmM

She didn't quite wring the final 86% out of the car but seemed to have fun all the same

[number2]

TheDeuce said:

Or this one? https://youtu.be/aA0XjK70LmM

She didn't quite wring the final 86% out of the car but seemed to have fun all the same

F1 car or not, a great experience I'm sure!

I did a driving experience in Bahrain - Clio Cup and Radical SR3. Highly recommended, brilliant fun - nothing like the twaddle experiences peddled in the UK. Looking forward to doing it again if/when I go back.

[LucyP]

TheDeuce said:

Christ, how big must the deposit be!?

You could probably run up a £30k bill after a gentle barrier touch that you thought you'd gotten away with!

The deposit is £1,400 + vat and that is the maximum that you are liable for, otherwise no one would book. The experiences start from £1,800, and no one is going to be interested if £1,800 suddenly turns into almost £40K.

And no, for £1,800 you are not going to get 52 laps of the Silverstone GP circuit, and you don't get the Honda V10 engine, but a rev limited Judd V8, at a venue where you are unlikely to hit anything and damage the car.

I'm not sure that this experience is still on offer as the car was for sale on an online auction site a couple of months ago. I don't know if it sold. The report that I saw had the bidding up to £110.5K with a few days to go, so the value of the car isn't actually very high.

[cholo]

Looks great, but in my experience this is the real issue...

Eddie Jordan’s team utilized a naturally aspirated 3.0l Honda V10 power plant which has now been swapped for a 3.0l Judd. De-limited, this engine can spin all the way up to a dizzy 10,500 rpm, developing almost 600 horsepower.

Yes, de-limited, it could do that, but we all know it will be hugely limited enough to make it massively slower than it would have been originally.

[TheDeuce]

cholo said:

Looks great, but in my experience this is the real issue...

Eddie Jordan’s team utilized a naturally aspirated 3.0l Honda V10 power plant which has now been swapped for a 3.0l Judd. De-limited, this engine can spin all the way up to a dizzy 10,500 rpm, developing almost 600 horsepower.

Yes, de-limited, it could do that, but we all know it will be hugely limited enough to make it massively slower than it would have been originally.

I struggle with how they call it an F1 car at all. It's chiefly an F3000 car surely, with a F1 front end stuck on to it.

But alas, what else could they possibly do? It's not feasible to allow people to rock up for an hours F1 experience and then send them out in a full blooded F1 car, half your clients would soil themselves and the car would be bent around the armco twice a week.

[Nampahc Niloc]

So where is the dividing line between the front end and the back end? What parts are F1 and what parts are F3000?

Just interested.

[TheDeuce]

Nampahc Niloc said:

So where is the dividing line between the front end and the back end? What parts are F1 and what parts are F3000?

Just interested.

Gearbox, rear suspension, engine and packaging all different from the F1 car. And of course, the aero for the F1 car was designed to work with the original back end form so that's all out of whack too.

I'd expect the original and complete F3000 car to be overall more track competent than the bastardised love child of the two in mutant form..

It's a bit like mating the front end of an F50 with the back end of an M3 beemer from the mid nineties. I mean it'll go.... But you'd struggle to convince yourself you were getting the full F50 experience.

[Nampahc Niloc]

So is the whole chassis still F1 or have they just plonked a F1 Nose on a F3000 car?

[TheDeuce]

Nampahc Niloc said:

So is the whole chassis still F1 or have they just plonked a F1 Nose on a F3000 car?

Oh sorry - I should have answered that better. The chassis (the tub) must be original F1. Along with everything forward of it, nose, steering, suspension etc. The backend bolts to the rear of the tub, so to get the F3000 on there they just need an adapter plate to mate the two. Looks like they got the original rear wing on too - but the actual packaging of the F3000 PU and design will mean the shape and proportions are not the same as the original F1 car.

[CoolHands]

I did a formula Ford day once at brands hatch. Basically weren’t allowed to press the throttle.

It’ll be even worse in this, you won’t be able to go above 3000 revs

[Nampahc Niloc]

TheDeuce said:

Nampahc Niloc said:

So is the whole chassis still F1 or have they just plonked a F1 Nose on a F3000 car?

Oh sorry - I should have answered that better. The chassis (the tub) must be original F1. Along with everything forward of it, nose, steering, suspension etc. The backend bolts to the rear of the tub, so to get the F3000 on there they just need an adapter plate to mate the two. Looks like they got the original rear wing on too - but the actual packaging of the F3000 PU and design will mean the shape and proportions are not the same as the original F1 car.

Gotcha. Thanks.