Does Mercedes need Lewis now ?

Does Mercedes need Lewis now ?

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Tazar

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498 posts

194 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Why should M-B pay Lewis the many, many millions he’s demanding when they have George Russell contracted already ?

His pre season tests in a Mercedes showed what he could do and irrespective of the result tomorrow he’s shown he should be in the car. Alongside Lewis he may be the better driver, certainly a truly competitive one.

aponting389

741 posts

180 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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They want him because he’s Lewis Hamilton, I’m sure they have lots of options who could win them both titles.

Nampahc Niloc

910 posts

80 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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One qualifying session and suddenly he’s a replacement for Lewis.

Think they might want a bit more evidence than that before they get rid of their star driver.

Even if you ignore any debate about who’s better, Lewis the seven times world champion brings just a tad more publicity.

WonkeyDonkey

2,351 posts

105 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Hamilton brings more to Mercedes than just his skill behind the wheel.


Exige77

6,519 posts

193 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Nampahc Niloc said:
One qualifying session and suddenly he’s a replacement for Lewis.

Think they might want a bit more evidence than that before they get rid of their star driver.

Even if you ignore any debate about who’s better, Lewis the seven times world champion brings just a tad more publicity.
The knowledgeable people in F1 know Lewis’s value over long term. Lewis “regularly” beats Valtteri. George has done very well today but not beaten anybody at the front yet never mind week in week out over a season.

George is a future champion but no match for Lewis yet.

Muzzer79

10,302 posts

189 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Not this again....

Russell has done well, but it’s one qualifying session. To deliver over a whole season is not the same. Just ask Rosberg and Bottas....

Lewis isn’t paid a lot of money just to drive. They’re paying for him too - the fact he’s a multiple champion, a known quantity, a virtually-guaranteed deliverer of results.
They’re also paying for the exposure of him and the records he’s breaking.

To use a similar analogy I used in another thread - if you owned Barcelona FC, would you sell Lionel Messi to a rival team because a substitute for him scored a hat-trick in one game? No.

abzmike

8,651 posts

108 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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One very good qualifying performance does not make a world champion.
And apart from anything else, Hamilton would get a drive in another decent car and still be competitive, and present a real threat to MB dominance - that would be a disaster for them.

CustardOnChips

1,936 posts

64 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Because he's the best and most marketable driver in the history of F1.

/Thread

Graveworm

8,526 posts

73 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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A view from an unlikely source

kambites

67,746 posts

223 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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aponting389 said:
They want him because he’s Lewis Hamilton, I’m sure they have lots of options who could win them both titles.
Yup. Next year Mercedes are highly likely to win both championships whoever they have driving for them... but only Lewis Hamilton can give them the opportunity to be the team with which the driver with the outright most championship wins, takes that record.

For the big car manufacturers, F1 is a glorified advertising platform and from that point of view Hamilton is by far the best driver they could have racing for them next year.

SmoothCriminal

5,102 posts

201 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Tazar said:
Why should M-B pay Lewis the many, many millions he’s demanding when they have George Russell contracted already ?

His pre season tests in a Mercedes showed what he could do and irrespective of the result tomorrow he’s shown he should be in the car. Alongside Lewis he may be the better driver, certainly a truly competitive one.
Max answers this question perfectly for you.

https://youtu.be/ZJCb3QeWv1Y

Schermerhorn

4,343 posts

191 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Lewis is the face of Mercedes. He is instrumental in helping drive sales of their AMG products but also their lower band of cars like the A-class amongst the younger demographic.

No doubt Lewis has massive appeal in America too and I would wager that Mercedes' sales have been on fire there too in the last few years amongst the younger demographic.

George could be just as good as Lewis but he wont help Mercedes sell cars like Lewis can.

Lewis looks like a rock star.

George looks like a teenage serial killer.

Schermerhorn

4,343 posts

191 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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CustardOnChips said:
Because he's the best and most marketable driver in the history of F1.

/Thread
Pretty Schumacher sure was a bigger and better paid global superstar than Lewis.

Tazar

Original Poster:

498 posts

194 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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This is an age old question as is the saying, “the King is dead, long live the King”.

George Russell was seen as a future talent having proved himself in the lower formulae. Being a driver at Williams he was overlooked to a point by Lando Norris or Alex Albon etc. No doubt those drivers might do well in a Mercedes that might drive to their character or temperament. But we don’t know that at the moment.

I bet several Management people in the pit lane are looking at Russell very differently today.

CustardOnChips

1,936 posts

64 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Schermerhorn said:
CustardOnChips said:
Because he's the best and most marketable driver in the history of F1.

/Thread
Pretty Schumacher sure was a bigger and better paid global superstar than Lewis.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2019/03/31/lewis-hamilton-becomes-f1s-highest-paid-driver-with-500-million-earnings/amp/

angrymoby

2,626 posts

180 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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CustardOnChips said:
quite the achievement considering that Lewis came in just as all the tobacco money left F1

Muzzer79

10,302 posts

189 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Tazar said:
This is an age old question as is the saying, “the King is dead, long live the King”.
It’s. One. Qualifying. Session.

Jonstar

877 posts

193 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Muzzer79 said:
It’s. One. Qualifying. Session.
Precisely, PH really is full of morons.

antspants

2,402 posts

177 months

Saturday 5th December 2020
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Graveworm said:
A view from an unlikely source
Question that's already been raised in the race thread so didn't need a thread of it's own, but as there is one it should have been closed here.

tozerman

1,180 posts

229 months

Sunday 6th December 2020
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I'm a fan of George Russell like many on here.
However turning up and driving a car honed/developed by arguably the best ever F1 driver is completely different to driving a car developed by someone who isn't.