FIA and its biofuel for F1

[Fundoreen]

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/formula-1-has-d...

F1 claim to have sustainable fuel product from bio waste.
BioFuels and the like were big news under the obama reign and contributed to soaring food prices in poor countries where the greedy just grew fuel not food. Its all this starvation that caused all the political upheavals during the golden obama reign.
Will people now grow product that goes directly to waste to power the 'green' future?
Human nature says yes if they can sell it for more than growing food.
Oddly Trump boosted grude oil and gas production so this problem seemed to go away.
But its all back on the agenda now.
The smug and well off will run around claiming to save the planet while food prices soar again for the less well off.

[cholo]

I'm no expert, but i beleive that this new Biofuel will be second generation, so no food supplies involved. I believe that it comes from waste?

Remember Mr Fusion in Back to the future 2??

I'm all for it if it keeps the IC engine going in F1. Perhaps they can loosen the Fuel limits now with Biofuel as well.

[KobayashiMaru86]

Aren't Porsche developing fuels? Porsche to F1 in 2022?

[Munter]

cholo said:

I'm no expert, but i beleive that this new Biofuel will be second generation, so no food supplies involved. I believe that it comes from waste?

So either you didn't read the OPs post or your answer is "no they will not"?

[cholo]

Munter said:

So either you didn't read the OPs post or your answer is "no they will not"?

What makes you think i didn't read the OP's post?

[geeks]

Fundoreen said:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/formula-1-has-d...

F1 claim to have sustainable fuel product from bio waste.
BioFuels and the like were big news under the obama reign and contributed to soaring food prices in poor countries where the greedy just grew fuel not food. Its all this starvation that caused all the political upheavals during the golden obama reign.
Will people now grow product that goes directly to waste to power the 'green' future?
Human nature says yes if they can sell it for more than growing food.
Oddly Trump boosted grude oil and gas production so this problem seemed to go away.
But its all back on the agenda now.
The smug and well off will run around claiming to save the planet while food prices soar again for the less well off.

The fuel is made from Bio waste.

The rest of your post is just another pro-Trump anti-Obama bullst bit of rhetoric that has nothing to do with fuel, F1 or the price of chips.

[Exige77]

I though global warming was the big problem and not fossil fuels running out any time soon ?

[sgtBerbatov]

Fundoreen said:

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/formula-1-has-d...

F1 claim to have sustainable fuel product from bio waste.
BioFuels and the like were big news under the obama reign and contributed to soaring food prices in poor countries where the greedy just grew fuel not food. Its all this starvation that caused all the political upheavals during the golden obama reign.
Will people now grow product that goes directly to waste to power the 'green' future?
Human nature says yes if they can sell it for more than growing food.
Oddly Trump boosted grude oil and gas production so this problem seemed to go away.
But its all back on the agenda now.
The smug and well off will run around claiming to save the planet while food prices soar again for the less well off.

Did the Daily Fail ban you for talking ste again?

[TheDeuce]

Exige77 said:

I though global warming was the big problem and not fossil fuels running out any time soon ?

Most of the global warming stuff is guff too. It's all 'fact' of course, but the way it's used to make certain points or to create panic is guff.

Depends what facts are focussed on. Has mankind contributed? Yes, for sure. Are the polar ice caps going to be lost if we remain on this track? Sadly yes... Throw in the mostly omitted facts however and you realise that mankind's contribution is fractional and entirely reasonable given we are actually part of the ecosystem (so like all other parts of it have a natural influence), and that the ice caps aren't even supposed to be there on a planet Earth in rude health, and were already well on the cycle of disappearing long before mankind even got to grips with fire. Our species hasn't been here at all for very long in planetary terms. this planet is headed, with or without our contribution, to become far hotter than we're currently comfortable with. That's just what this planet does, it goes through cycles. We happened to evolve during an extended cool cycle. It's a problem, but not one we can fix by worrying about our own tiny influence on it.

And fossil fuels are unlikely to run out given that new technology is finding new reserves and that also new technology is removing dependency from fossil fuels. I suspect there will be plenty of the stuff still in the ground long after we've lost interest in hauling it to the surface and setting fire to it in various ways. Technology has a proven habit of solving the problems it creates - technological development is in fact fuelled by problems.

Does any of this impact F1's future fuel choices? Not really, F1 for the sake of manufacturers just has to appear 'green', obviously if F1 thought their activities were a serious issue, the answer would be to pack up and stop racing.. Or, shift to biofuel and introduce a load of other initiatives so that the entire racing series become notionally 'carbon neutral'. Which makes no real difference to the planet overall but does give the right image. Image is currency in the world of F1.

[EDLT]

Fuelling 20 F1 cars is slightly smaller scale than millions of road cars.

[Overhaul]

Park your breakfast and save F1 !