Engine Swap Grid Penalties at a race with Sprint Qualifying

[Flooble]

Does anyone know the answer to this, I've had a look around but can't find it (it is probably buried in paragraph 55 sub paragraph c section 3 item 34 on the FIA website ...)

"Sprint Qualifying" is the actual qualifying for the race on the Sunday. So, logically, if you take a new engine outside your allowance that weekend, you will take a grid drop on the Sunday.

Or would you take the grid drop on the Saturday Sprint Qualifying?

There's an article on one of the F1 sites suggesting that may be a way for Max (and Perez) to salvage a weekend when they have to swap their engines - they can take their penalty at the start of the sprint qualifying and make their way back up the field during the sprint race, thus starting on pole for Sunday.

Does anyone know the specific rule? This article suggests it's Sunday when you take the drop: https://www.planetf1.com/news/michael-masi-sprint-...

[Kraken]

No idea but I'd trust anything on PlanetF1 as much as I would an article about the EU or immigrants in the Daily Express....

[Jasandjules]

I would say it has to be for the race on Sunday as the sprint "replaces" qualifying. And the penalty is applied to the "race"

[Ian974]

Disregarding what penalty is actually going to be applied (and for whatever team receiving it, whether it was red bull, mercedes or Ferrari), I can't help but feel that penalties under these circumstances are a little bit unfair.
The intention of the penalties is to restrict the number of engines being used and improving the reliability of the cars and they have worked very well for that purpose.
It's just that now with motors receiving damage through collisions (and that it has happened so much over the last couple races), it doesn't really seem an "appropriate" punishment, car X gets hit by car Y, but car X gets a larger penalty purely due to the damage that has been sustained.
Though there is the arguable upside of another fresher engine going through the rest of the season.

[Deesee]

You take any penalty’s in the GP (Sunday Race).

Monza (Next Race), is where most teams are expected to take a new PU (3rd and Final for most).

The 3rd event is due to be Brazil (round 20) which is not probably going to go ahead.

Hopefully they will do one on the Sakhir ‘oval’ if that replaces Brazil.

[Flooble]

Deesee said:

You take any penalty’s in the GP (Sunday Race).

Monza (Next Race), is where most teams are expected to take a new PU (3rd and Final for most).

The 3rd event is due to be Brazil (round 20) which is not probably going to go ahead.

Hopefully they will do one on the Sakhir ‘oval’ if that replaces Brazil.

Thanks. That will be interesting then - Ferrari may have to take a new engine for Leclerc at Spa, when normally they try to do something a bit special at Monza because, well, it's Monza. I wonder if they'll crank up the Spa engine at Monza and accept it might blow, or take an extra engine at Monza and try to banzai the sprint race?

For once the penalties might actually make things interesting. One more variable!