Jean Todt back to Ferrari
Jean Todt back to Ferrari
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davidd

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6,650 posts

305 months

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

104 months

Monday 10th January 2022
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Wow fresh new ideas at ferrari. What is he? About 75 years old? If they are only after his cheating skills maybe they are still intact.

amgmcqueen

3,520 posts

171 months

Monday 10th January 2022
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The greedy old boomer just can't retire can he....

Schermerhorn

4,350 posts

210 months

Tuesday 11th January 2022
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amgmcqueen said:
The greedy old boomer just can't retire can he....
If his mind is still sharp and he is healthy then he should go for it.

There's no worse combination than being retired and having nothing to do for older people. It's like a fast track to declining health and the morgue.

davidd

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6,650 posts

305 months

Wednesday 12th January 2022
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vaud

57,484 posts

176 months

Wednesday 12th January 2022
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davidd said:
And to be fair he gave some of the background as to why... news is only as good as your sources, and if trusted sources also have out of date info...

Fundoreen

4,180 posts

104 months

Wednesday 12th January 2022
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This wasn't a plan made on a whim.
Things may have changed after the season end. Todt was head of the FIA who are in the sthouse with a lot of people now.
Maybe Ferrari were as outraged as everyone else and now want to avoid the association.

Common Porpoise

791 posts

191 months

Thursday 13th January 2022
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Fundoreen said:
This wasn't a plan made on a whim.
Things may have changed after the season end. Todt was head of the FIA who are in the sthouse with a lot of people now.
Maybe Ferrari were as outraged as everyone else and now want to avoid the association.
Ferrari have to be on Mercedes side vs the FIA as far as i can see so definitely potential conflicts

... Either that, or he's going for Président de la République instead!

Tazar

615 posts

213 months

Thursday 13th January 2022
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If he has fingers on the pulse of the designers, team personnel and drivers why shouldn’t he succeed. I’m past retirement age but still work full time and I’m regularly requested by national companies because I achieve sales figures.


Sandpit Steve

13,707 posts

95 months

Thursday 13th January 2022
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Common Porpoise said:
Ferrari have to be on Mercedes side vs the FIA as far as i can see so definitely potential conflicts

... Either that, or he's going for Président de la République instead!
Well the Scuderia are certainly not happy about how things played out for Carlos Jr at the end of the last race. He was in 3rd place and didn’t get the lapped cars in front of him cleared out of the way, so he spent the last lap fighting blue flags rather than going after the two cars in front of him.

davidd

Original Poster:

6,650 posts

305 months

Thursday 13th January 2022
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JT was apparently lining up a UN role (as Joe has said) so I was quite surprised to read he might be going back to Ferrari, although there was some logic to that and it came from Joe who is normally very accurate.

Derek Smith

48,493 posts

269 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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He left Ferrari under a bit of a cloud. If you talk to classic Ferrari owners you will discover what he did, and, if you are like me, be shocked. I'm surprised they let him back in.

vulture1

13,422 posts

200 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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Sandpit Steve said:
Common Porpoise said:
Ferrari have to be on Mercedes side vs the FIA as far as i can see so definitely potential conflicts

... Either that, or he's going for Président de la République instead!
Well the Scuderia are certainly not happy about how things played out for Carlos Jr at the end of the last race. He was in 3rd place and didn’t get the lapped cars in front of him cleared out of the way, so he spent the last lap fighting blue flags rather than going after the two cars in front of him.
Good point I had forgotton he got screwed over with that.

Zarco

19,954 posts

230 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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Brawn is at a loose end now isn't he?

I wonder.... scratchchin

TheDeuce

30,653 posts

87 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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vulture1 said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Common Porpoise said:
Ferrari have to be on Mercedes side vs the FIA as far as i can see so definitely potential conflicts

... Either that, or he's going for Président de la République instead!
Well the Scuderia are certainly not happy about how things played out for Carlos Jr at the end of the last race. He was in 3rd place and didn’t get the lapped cars in front of him cleared out of the way, so he spent the last lap fighting blue flags rather than going after the two cars in front of him.
Good point I had forgotton he got screwed over with that.
Maybe it was Masi's call, maybe there was pressure put on him from above..

But either way, the thing to make Mercedes and Ferrari happy, and to help the FIA save face... is definitely to sling Masi under the bus and appoint someone new. We'll just gloss over the fact that Masi, for all his faults, is still the best trained person for the role - also we can ignore the likelihood that his replacement will be subject to the exact same pressures to support 'the show'. He has to go though imo, that last race was just too much of a howler even for modern F1, and it had his name on it.. bye.

MitchT

17,081 posts

230 months

Monday 17th January 2022
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Derek Smith said:
He left Ferrari under a bit of a cloud. If you talk to classic Ferrari owners you will discover what he did, and, if you are like me, be shocked. I'm surprised they let him back in.
Sounds intriguing. Is there anywhere online where the story is told? I know someone with a classic Ferrari but I can't imagine why they'd be a party to information which wasn't readily available online, unless by "classic Ferrari owners" you mean those among the privileged minority who own 250GTOs and the like and are very well connected.

LP670

873 posts

147 months

Tuesday 18th January 2022
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Derek Smith said:
He left Ferrari under a bit of a cloud. If you talk to classic Ferrari owners you will discover what he did, and, if you are like me, be shocked. I'm surprised they let him back in.
Is this something to do with the history of a car that has chassis number 0846?

LM240

5,339 posts

239 months

Tuesday 18th January 2022
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Derek Smith said:
He left Ferrari under a bit of a cloud. If you talk to classic Ferrari owners you will discover what he did, and, if you are like me, be shocked. I'm surprised they let him back in.
I’m a bit short on classic Ferrari owning neighbours, would you finish the story.


Petrus1983

10,677 posts

183 months

Tuesday 18th January 2022
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LM240 said:
Derek Smith said:
He left Ferrari under a bit of a cloud. If you talk to classic Ferrari owners you will discover what he did, and, if you are like me, be shocked. I'm surprised they let him back in.
I’m a bit short on classic Ferrari owning neighbours, would you finish the story.
I thought that was Luca?

majordad

3,629 posts

218 months

Tuesday 18th January 2022
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Spill the beans please