Ferrari to sack Binotto?

[anonymous-user]

Vasseur from Alfa to replace him?

[BrettMRC]

Source?

Wouldn't be surprised though!

[anonymous-user]

BrettMRC said:

Source?

Wouldn't be surprised though!

Italian press

[anonymous-user]

It’s on here now

https://www.planetf1.com/news/ferrari-replacing-ma...

[Piginapoke]

Vasseur has a mixed reputation as a TP, to say the least. Ferrari are in an upward curve, I'd leave well alone.

[entropy]

Piginapoke said:

Ferrari are in an upward curve, I'd leave well alone.

Really? CLC was completely lost for words on Saturday having to play ambassador for his team's poor decision making - again and most probably sick to death of it all.

[mylesmcd]

Bring back Flavio!

[FourWheelDrift]

Ferrari need fewer Italians running the team.

[Presuming Ed]

This really isn't a wind up but they should be giving Christian Horner a massive pay rise to join the Scuderia. He'd have the place in order in 12 months. You need someone like him who is going to bring along the talent Ferrari needs to succeed.

[Piginapoke]

entropy said:

Piginapoke said:

Ferrari are in an upward curve, I'd leave well alone.

Really? CLC was completely lost for words on Saturday having to play ambassador for his team's poor decision making - again and most probably sick to death of it all.

I'm taking the season as a whole, compared to the recent past. 5 wins, 2nd in WDC.

[LM240]

Can we have Jean Todt and Ross Brawn back please!

[thegreenhell]

Ferrari have now issued a statement of official denial. https://the-race.com/formula-1/ferrari-binotto-vas...

So it's probably true.

[anonymous-user]

thegreenhell said:

Ferrari have now issued a statement of official denial. https://the-race.com/formula-1/ferrari-binotto-vas...

So it's probably true.

Shall we keep him shall we fire him. We are fitting the softs no it’s the mediums. Box box no stay out oh too late

[BrettMRC]

thegreenhell said:

Ferrari have now issued a statement of official denial. https://the-race.com/formula-1/ferrari-binotto-vas...

So it's probably true.

Have they now got a Russian PR team?

[InformationSuperHighway]

thegreenhell said:

Ferrari have now issued a statement of official denial. https://the-race.com/formula-1/ferrari-binotto-vas...

So it's probably true.

So he won't leave at the end of 2022

But he will leave at the start of 2023

[entropy]

Piginapoke said:

entropy said:

Piginapoke said:

Ferrari are in an upward curve, I'd leave well alone.

Really? CLC was completely lost for words on Saturday having to play ambassador for his team's poor decision making - again and most probably sick to death of it all.

I'm taking the season as a whole, compared to the recent past. 5 wins, 2nd in WDC.

But Ferrari have tailed off in the second half of this season because they have lost out on the development war. That's been a fundamental problem with Ferrari for a number of years.

Think back to Vettel challenging for WDC and it wasn't just down to Seb's mistakes but Merc having strength and depth to tame a diva and still extract performance over a season.

[thegreenhell]

They said recently that they had to stop developing a few races ago because they were too close to the budget cap already.

[Piginapoke]

entropy said:

Piginapoke said:

entropy said:

Piginapoke said:

Ferrari are in an upward curve, I'd leave well alone.

Really? CLC was completely lost for words on Saturday having to play ambassador for his team's poor decision making - again and most probably sick to death of it all.

I'm taking the season as a whole, compared to the recent past. 5 wins, 2nd in WDC.

But Ferrari have tailed off in the second half of this season because they have lost out on the development war. That's been a fundamental problem with Ferrari for a number of years.

Think back to Vettel challenging for WDC and it wasn't just down to Seb's mistakes but Merc having strength and depth to tame a diva and still extract performance over a season.

Yes but teams don't just become number 1 overnight, there is always a building process. Binotto led the technical team to produce the season's fastest car over a lap, a great improvement on the 2020 and 21 performance. The jury is out whether he can build the behaviours and culture to make the team take the final step, and he deserves another season at least.

[kambites]

Piginapoke said:

Binotto led the technical team to produce the season's fastest car over a lap, a great improvement on the 2020 and 21 performance.

Arguably this is the problem; the TP isn't really meant to lead the technical team - I'm not convinced having one person as CTO and TP is particularly helpful for them.

[carl_w]

cc3 said:

Shall we keep him shall we fire him. We are fitting the softs no it’s the mediums. Box box no stay out oh too late

Charles, should we keep Mattio or bring in Fred? Question.