Official 2025 Italian Grand Prix Thread ***SPOILERS***

[Piginapoke]

Hello all. After a busy Dutch GP we’re straight to Monza, another classic circuit. Zandvoort was tough on Lando, and Oscar is now the clear favorite for the WDC.

Ferrari will want to show better form after Zandvoort, and Hamilton will need a clean weekend, not helped by a 5 place grid penalty.

Here’s to a great race. Oscar has the momentum and will keep it going here I think.

Date(s): Friday 5 to Sunday 7 August 2025.

UK Broadcast Timings (and track time)

All sessions are live on Sky F1. Channel 4 is showing highlights of all competitive sessions.





2024 Highlights: Charles wins with a one stop strategy. Oscar mugs Lando on lap 1.

https://youtu.be/sTmpbEYUba0?si=nYom-KJMq8uFwdFl

Tyres:

Soft compounds C3, C4, C5



2024 Result:

[90CHPAXL]

OP for me, I think Lando will try too hard and cock up qualy. Should be plain sailing for papaya here

[BrettMRC]

Thanks PiaP!

I'm going Nor, Lec, Pia.... based on nothing!

[BunkMoreland]

90CHPAXL said:

OP for me, I think Lando will try too hard and cock up qualy. Should be plain sailing for papaya here

What odds on Lando and Oscar race ending contact into T1?

[White-Noise]

Is that a new graphic piap?

I've gone for OP as ever as I just see him having the legs over the season.

Lots of love for Monza, wonderful track to visit and many, many happy hours driving backwards round it in Grand Prix 2 on the pc causing massive accidents

Magical place for me.

[TheDeuce]

BunkMoreland said:

90CHPAXL said:

OP for me, I think Lando will try too hard and cock up qualy. Should be plain sailing for papaya here

What odds on Lando and Oscar race ending contact into T1?

Low I hope, that would remove a major storyline from the rest of the race and be of zero benefit to either of them.

The actual chance of it happening depends on how they qualify of course. If Lando starts P1 then there's a reasonable chance he might have caught up to Piastri by T1, and could if he's clumsy collide. If Piastri starts P1 there's a very low chance Lando will be close enough to cause a T1 problem.

[SmoothCriminal]

Ferrari pretty much design their car for here and Monaco so Charles win lol.

Shame about the pathetic carry over penalty for Hamilton.

[Jasandjules]

Oscar's race to win. Lando a close second.

Lewis is pretty much screwed before we start.

[BunkMoreland]

SmoothCriminal said:

Ferrari pretty much design their car for here and Monaco so Charles win lol.

Shame about the pathetic carry over penalty for Hamilton.

Fewer big stops which is one of the areas Lewis and Charles are struggling with. I wouldn't put it past both Ferraris to have good races. But sadly that will still be 4th and 5th behind both McLarens and Max carrying RBR again

[Nova Gyna]

We get a turn 1 pile-up, Verstappen wins anyway, and Ferrari puts out a statement about “valuable data collection” by Sunday night.

Thanks, PiaP

[nnnitram]

Hamilton's grid penalty sucks but it's 5 places, not the end of the world. If he qualifies well he can still be starting on row 3 or 4. Monza isn't the place to make up a lot of places in the first turn but it's not race over. Plenty of drivers start 5 places under their "rightful" position and do well.

[vaud]

Have been a few times, always GA tickets and had a great time. Sat in the bleachers with the locals and other fans was fantastic. I have very broken Italian but in sharing picnics and some prosecco with the Italian family next to us added to the experience. From the group around us, when they saw we were British, Mansell was highly respected - "il leone". Hamilton, erm, less so.

And being on the track afterwards is a treat that other tracks should learn from.

Stay in Como, get the fast train down from Switzerland, free transfer to the circuit, bit of a walk and then you are there... Reverse and you can be in Como for dinner by the lake with a cool breeze after the heat of the day. And then figure out a way of getting a download of the race to work out what actually happened,

One of the best value races for atmosphere.

[paulguitar]

vaud said:

Have been a few times, always GA tickets and had a great time. Sat in the bleachers with the locals and other fans was fantastic. I have very broken Italian but in sharing picnics and some prosecco with the Italian family next to us added to the experience. From the group around us, when they saw we were British, Mansell was highly respected - "il leone". Hamilton, erm, less so.

And being on the track afterwards is a treat that other tracks should learn from.

Stay in Como, get the fast train down from Switzerland, free transfer to the circuit, bit of a walk and then you are there... Reverse and you can be in Como for dinner by the lake with a cool breeze after the heat of the day. And then figure out a way of getting a download of the race to work out what actually happened,

One of the best value races for atmosphere.

I went in 2001, drove from Vendee overnight in a MK1 Toyota MR2. Did the whole weekend fueled by espresso and beer, and drove back Sunday night, though pouring rain, flat out. Straight back to work Monday morning with 45 minutes of sleep.

It's amazing what we do when we're young, looking back.

[BunkMoreland]

vaud said:

Have been a few times, always GA tickets and had a great time. Sat in the bleachers with the locals and other fans was fantastic. I have very broken Italian but in sharing picnics and some prosecco with the Italian family next to us added to the experience. From the group around us, when they saw we were British, Mansell was highly respected - "il leone". Hamilton, erm, less so.

And being on the track afterwards is a treat that other tracks should learn from.

Stay in Como, get the fast train down from Switzerland, free transfer to the circuit, bit of a walk and then you are there... Reverse and you can be in Como for dinner by the lake with a cool breeze after the heat of the day. And then figure out a way of getting a download of the race to work out what actually happened,

One of the best value races for atmosphere.

I suspect Italian partisanship will shift this year given someone's now wearing Red and has a smattering of Italian lined up. "prego" "grazie mille"

We were thinking about Monza a couple years ago, but (iirc) WTF1 went and it looked hard work on their YT vid. (and we only wanted grandstands at the T1 chicane) We'd provisionally thought Milano to stay though. But Como is potentially a good shout

[vaud]

BunkMoreland said:

I suspect Italian partisanship will shift this year given someone's now wearing Red and has a smattering of Italian lined up. "prego" "grazie mille"

We were thinking about Monza a couple years ago, but (iirc) WTF1 went and it looked hard work on their YT vid. (and we only wanted grandstands at the T1 chicane) We'd provisionally thought Milano to stay though. But Como is potentially a good shout

It's definitely one for a long weekend. The lakes are a nice contrast.



(me on the track in 2009)

[HocusPocus]

Thanks PiaP!

McLaren dominance is overwhelming, so I don't think Charles can win this year. Shame about the Lewis 5 place grid penalty, cos it ruins his Monza debut in red.

Edited by HocusPocus on Wednesday 3rd September 00:26

[TVR Sagaris]

I think the Ferraris will have a good race, despite Hamilton's penalty, but I can only see Piastri winning.

[Piginapoke]

White-Noise said:

Is that a new graphic piap?

I've gone for OP as ever as I just see him having the legs over the season.

Lots of love for Monza, wonderful track to visit and many, many happy hours driving backwards round it in Grand Prix 2 on the pc causing massive accidents

Magical place for me.

Nah- it's a Pirelli thing. Some races they produce these great graphics with all the info you need, some races nothing at all.......

[Byker28i]

TVR Sagaris said:

I think the Ferraris will have a good race, despite Hamilton's penalty, but I can only see Piastri winning.

This. Ferraris should be the second fastest car behind the McLarens, they've got pace.

[Sandpit Steve]

Lewis to put in a new engine and turn it up to 11, hoping to recreate Brazil ‘21 at a track where overtaking is possible?