F1 will be V8 from 2031
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Mohammed Ben Sulayem speaking about the future of the engine regulations for F1.
He's a very strange character, but if this happens, he will be on my Christmas card list for eternity.
He genuinely seems to get it. Much lighter cars, a naturally aspirated V8, with about 10% extra power coming from a small hybrid setup. The lack of a turbo is HUGE, as they ruin the sound.
I am excite.
https://www.autohebdof1.com/news/f1/Mohammed-Ben-S...
He's a very strange character, but if this happens, he will be on my Christmas card list for eternity.
He genuinely seems to get it. Much lighter cars, a naturally aspirated V8, with about 10% extra power coming from a small hybrid setup. The lack of a turbo is HUGE, as they ruin the sound.
I am excite.
https://www.autohebdof1.com/news/f1/Mohammed-Ben-S...
TikTak said:
The question mark is and always has been Audi, if they'll oppose or just leave.
Not just Audi.EV and Hybrid is where the mass market now lives. The marketing departments of the participating manufacturers are going to have an interesting time convincing boards and shareholders over the validity of continuing to invest heavily in promoting a technology that is not available to their customers.
Kawasaki90 said:
I d rather have a couple of engine manufacturers and get the atmosphere of f1 back, then several engine manufacturers producing what we have now, and it will only get worse.
Me too.Why on earth should anyone give a flying f
k if Audi disappears? For most of F1's history, things proceeded very well with only racing teams competing.
mikecassie said:
If they go back to V8 or even V6 I'd sooner have turbos than hybrid assistance. Make them continue to run on synthetic fuels as they do now. If they want to increase the green credentials it's the shipping of the circus that needs to clean up, not the races themselves.
Having a turbo completely ruins the sound.mikecassie said:
If they go back to V8 or even V6 I'd sooner have turbos than hybrid assistance. Make them continue to run on synthetic fuels as they do now. If they want to increase the green credentials it's the shipping of the circus that needs to clean up, not the races themselves.
Exactly. All this "Green" s**t really winds me up, travelling all around the world with hundreds of people etc and tons of kit. I mean FFS just say we know Net Zero is nonsense and away we go.StevieBee said:
TikTak said:
The question mark is and always has been Audi, if they'll oppose or just leave.
Not just Audi.EV and Hybrid is where the mass market now lives. The marketing departments of the participating manufacturers are going to have an interesting time convincing boards and shareholders over the validity of continuing to invest heavily in promoting a technology that is not available to their customers.
Even Aston Martins with Mercs with turbos seems.... un-Aston Martin.
paulguitar said:
Kawasaki90 said:
I d rather have a couple of engine manufacturers and get the atmosphere of f1 back, then several engine manufacturers producing what we have now, and it will only get worse.
Me too.Why on earth should anyone give a flying f
k if Audi disappears? For most of F1's history, things proceeded very well with only racing teams competing.
F1 is very strong at the moment, if a team walks, another will snap the places up, teams worth millions a few years ago are now worth billions.
They need the gravy train, like it or not, hybrid is here to stay tho.
I hate hybrid, but can see it is a part of the future.
I dont think we will ever see the 20k rpm beasts of the past again.
They need the gravy train, like it or not, hybrid is here to stay tho.
I hate hybrid, but can see it is a part of the future.
I dont think we will ever see the 20k rpm beasts of the past again.
tele_lover said:
StevieBee said:
TikTak said:
The question mark is and always has been Audi, if they'll oppose or just leave.
Not just Audi.EV and Hybrid is where the mass market now lives. The marketing departments of the participating manufacturers are going to have an interesting time convincing boards and shareholders over the validity of continuing to invest heavily in promoting a technology that is not available to their customers.
But we are a diminishing breed. There is a growing market of people born and raised only in the Hybrid era and see this as normal and EV increasingly so. Anything that isn't is considered 'old-tech'. This is why even Ferrari are having to cede to market demands.
I really hope they don't sound like the last lot of V8s. The V12s were wonderful, but for me the V8s that followed them sounded absolutely awful. Fortunately, I think they're very unlikely to rev to 20k RPM like the ones in the 2000s.
The reduction in weight sounds promising but I really hope it's also accompanied by a further reduction in size, especially width.
The reduction in weight sounds promising but I really hope it's also accompanied by a further reduction in size, especially width.
Edited by kambites on Wednesday 17th June 07:29
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