V8 engines for 2030
V8 engines for 2030
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Oilchange

Original Poster:

9,718 posts

290 months

Wednesday
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Has this been mentioned?

MBen-S is on Insta saying this

paulguitar

35,985 posts

143 months

Wednesday
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Oilchange said:
Has this been mentioned?

MBen-S is on Insta saying this
Original plan was for 2031. Sadly, it has been mostly ruined since I excitedly started that thread; it looks like they are going with low-revving turbos.


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Jasandjules

72,620 posts

259 months

Yesterday (02:20)
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I can't imagine this getting past the eco nonsense brigade but......

sto66

75 posts

85 months

Yesterday (06:01)
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Jasandjules said:
I can't imagine this getting past the eco nonsense brigade but......
  • ** them
If Audi want to leave F1, don't let the door slam behind you.

Oilchange

Original Poster:

9,718 posts

290 months

Yesterday (15:54)
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Audi appear to want to keep turbos, mmm.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a screaming N/A going at 15-16,000 rpm !

paulguitar

35,985 posts

143 months

Yesterday (16:29)
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Oilchange said:
Audi appear to want to keep turbos, mmm.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a screaming N/A going at 15-16,000 rpm !
Preferably 20,000, but yes.



TheDeuce

34,484 posts

96 months

Yesterday (17:48)
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Oilchange said:
Audi appear to want to keep turbos, mmm.
Wouldn't it be nice to have a screaming N/A going at 15-16,000 rpm !
Aiui the majority/all teams gave the nod to turbo and retaining electrical assistance. But the electrical side is thankfully expected to go back to what it was before this season - basically just a useful extra ~150hp to help passing and save a thimble full of fuel.

We were never going to get screaming NA's! frown

Times change, and we change with them.

sto66

75 posts

85 months

Yesterday (21:37)
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Wouldn't it be better to have a relatively simple V8 and then ALL teams must produce their own engine?

Have it so engine design can still be rewarded.

TheDeuce

34,484 posts

96 months

Yesterday (21:50)
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sto66 said:
Wouldn't it be better to have a relatively simple V8 and then ALL teams must produce their own engine?

Have it so engine design can still be rewarded.
It would be if there weren't commercial considerations. But we've all chosen to follow a sport born by commercial interests, that maintains those interests to this day.

The sport has stuck to it's roots, selling cars. It's the world of cars that changed.

coppice

9,735 posts

174 months

Jasandjules said:
I can't imagine this getting past the eco nonsense brigade but......
Often referred to as a popular bogey man figure - but although many people don't like motor sport (which for them (and many on PH) only means F1 ) I have never once heard an opinion about engine tech by non enthusiasts. Sure,some manufacturers push for hybrids because it's what they sell, but that is commercial expedience . not zealotry .

As for V8s , nothing much to see here really . F1 V8s are invariably flat plane and while they can make a lot of noise it's rarely as sonorous as other configurations. The irony is that a V6 turbo can make an absolutely wonderful bellow, as anyone who stood trackside in the 1.5 Turbo era can attest . The Honda, Renault and TAG engines especially - all V6 twin turbo - coud wake the dead .

Blib

48,153 posts

227 months

Too many temporary, city-centre tracks to allow 'proper', unencumbered V8s.

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snotrag

15,694 posts

241 months

coppice said:
Often referred to as a popular bogey man figure - but although many people don't like motor sport (which for them (and many on PH) only means F1 ) I have never once heard an opinion about engine tech by non enthusiasts. Sure,some manufacturers push for hybrids because it's what they sell, but that is commercial expedience . not zealotry .

As for V8s , nothing much to see here really . F1 V8s are invariably flat plane and while they can make a lot of noise it's rarely as sonorous as other configurations. The irony is that a V6 turbo can make an absolutely wonderful bellow, as anyone who stood trackside in the 1.5 Turbo era can attest . The Honda, Renault and TAG engines especially - all V6 twin turbo - coud wake the dead .
I would rather see 6, 10, or 12 cylinder configurations than V8s. The harmonics are generally better.

HardtopManual

2,924 posts

196 months

TheDeuce said:
sto66 said:
The sport has stuck to it's roots, selling cars.
Err, no. Have a look at the longest-running F1 teams. Of the minority that were part of a company that sold road cars at all, the road cars funded the racing, rather than the racing advertising the road car business.

Blib

48,153 posts

227 months

'Garagistes'.

braddo

12,361 posts

218 months

HardtopManual said:
TheDeuce said:
The sport has stuck to it's roots, selling cars.
Err, no. Have a look at the longest-running F1 teams. Of the minority that were part of a company that sold road cars at all, the road cars funded the racing, rather than the racing advertising the road car business.
Hmm, you need to distinguish between the teams and who supplies the engines. Going back a long way, the engines have mostly come from big car manufacturers - Ford, Renault, BMW, Honda, Mercedes.

Not that I fully agree with Deuce's comment, but I guess there is truth in it because a few big manufacturers have had involvement in F1 since a long time now.