Car exteriors - ergonomic disasters
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Following on from the interior ergonomics thread... (exterior 'ergonomics' is probably not the right word but it fitted in with the other thread..)
I'm sorry VW, but it's you again.
The MK5 Golf indicator that is in the centre of the brake light, rendering it difficult to see.
Why?
The same problem applies to the Passat of the same era too....

Passat..

I'm sorry VW, but it's you again.
The MK5 Golf indicator that is in the centre of the brake light, rendering it difficult to see.
Why?
The same problem applies to the Passat of the same era too....
Passat..
Edited by TonyRPH on Friday 20th May 09:22
Actually, this is gripe of mine.
Why is it so many indicators, especially rear ones are so hard to see these days? Combine this with over bright rear lights that dazel as much as rear foglights do.
I followed a car a while back, think it was a VAG hatch of some kind. Some sort of swirly looking LED rear lights (stock, it was a brand new car). These things caused a sort of disorientating haze and blur. Very hard to focus on yet continually caught your eye. Highly distracting, so much so I even pulled over to let them get far enough a head that is was less of an issue.
Why is it so many indicators, especially rear ones are so hard to see these days? Combine this with over bright rear lights that dazel as much as rear foglights do.
I followed a car a while back, think it was a VAG hatch of some kind. Some sort of swirly looking LED rear lights (stock, it was a brand new car). These things caused a sort of disorientating haze and blur. Very hard to focus on yet continually caught your eye. Highly distracting, so much so I even pulled over to let them get far enough a head that is was less of an issue.
The design of the S1 Elise where you can only open the boot from inside the car is a bit idiotic, especially since the cable tends to snap and then the only way to get into the boot is to cut a hole in the bodywork. Mind you the S2 needing the key is almost as annoying - I quite often find that I want something out of the boot while I'm in the garage and have to go back inside to get the keys to get it.
Range Rover/X5/Merc ML etc front lights all seem to be at the perfect height for blinding me via my rear view mirror in the '2. This annoys the hell out me for the six months of the year it's dark up here.
Actually new Transits do this also.
I therefor suggest a ban on all SUVs and vans whenever I take to the highways
Actually new Transits do this also.
I therefor suggest a ban on all SUVs and vans whenever I take to the highways

Actually, I've got a genuine ergonomic gripe.
Windscreen wipers!!!!!
The ones that when in use leave all the collected water on the upstroke right in line with the driver. So you can't see out properly. If at night the effect is multiplied.
My Pug 106 was the worst, but even my Roadster does it.
Windscreen wipers!!!!!
The ones that when in use leave all the collected water on the upstroke right in line with the driver. So you can't see out properly. If at night the effect is multiplied.
My Pug 106 was the worst, but even my Roadster does it.
rodgerramjet said:
Range Rover/X5/Merc ML etc front lights all seem to be at the perfect height for blinding me via my rear view mirror in the '2. This annoys the hell out me for the six months of the year it's dark up here.
Actually new Transits do this also.
I therefor suggest a ban on all SUVs and vans whenever I take to the highways
That's not ergonomics though. It's physics...Actually new Transits do this also.
I therefor suggest a ban on all SUVs and vans whenever I take to the highways

TonyRPH said:
Following on from the interior ergonomics thread... (exterior 'ergonomics' is probably not the right word but it fitted in with the other thread..)
I'm sorry VW, but it's you again.
The MK5 Golf indicator that is in the centre of the brake light, rendering it difficult to see.
Why?
The same problem applies to the Passat of the same era too....
Nearly rear ended several of these. They're almost impossible to see with the brake lights on. I'm sorry VW, but it's you again.
The MK5 Golf indicator that is in the centre of the brake light, rendering it difficult to see.
Why?
The same problem applies to the Passat of the same era too....
I'd nominate wipers that in their park position are hidden behind the rear of the bonnet edge so you can't lift them off far enough to clean the blades or the screen beneath the parked position.
This gets worse in winter as you can't just lift them off the screen and leave them lifted off so they don't freeze on, but have to remember to stop them in a non parked position, then lift them off.
Yes VW, you again.
Though in your defence you do have a maintenance position which is quite easy to select. Just that you have to have an accurate weather forecast and with the state of Mystic met and others these days then this is all rendered somewhat moot.
This gets worse in winter as you can't just lift them off the screen and leave them lifted off so they don't freeze on, but have to remember to stop them in a non parked position, then lift them off.
Yes VW, you again.
Though in your defence you do have a maintenance position which is quite easy to select. Just that you have to have an accurate weather forecast and with the state of Mystic met and others these days then this is all rendered somewhat moot.
F i F said:
I'd nominate wipers that in their park position are hidden behind the rear of the bonnet edge so you can't lift them off far enough to clean the blades or the screen beneath the parked position.
This gets worse in winter as you can't just lift them off the screen and leave them lifted off so they don't freeze on, but have to remember to stop them in a non parked position, then lift them off.
Yes VW, you again.
Though in your defence you do have a maintenance position which is quite easy to select. Just that you have to have an accurate weather forecast and with the state of Mystic met and others these days then this is all rendered somewhat moot.
Isn't that to reduce wind noise when driving though?This gets worse in winter as you can't just lift them off the screen and leave them lifted off so they don't freeze on, but have to remember to stop them in a non parked position, then lift them off.
Yes VW, you again.
Though in your defence you do have a maintenance position which is quite easy to select. Just that you have to have an accurate weather forecast and with the state of Mystic met and others these days then this is all rendered somewhat moot.
DR10 said:
F i F said:
I'd nominate wipers that in their park position are hidden behind the rear of the bonnet edge so you can't lift them off far enough to clean the blades or the screen beneath the parked position.
This gets worse in winter as you can't just lift them off the screen and leave them lifted off so they don't freeze on, but have to remember to stop them in a non parked position, then lift them off.
Yes VW, you again.
Though in your defence you do have a maintenance position which is quite easy to select. Just that you have to have an accurate weather forecast and with the state of Mystic met and others these days then this is all rendered somewhat moot.
Isn't that to reduce wind noise when driving though?This gets worse in winter as you can't just lift them off the screen and leave them lifted off so they don't freeze on, but have to remember to stop them in a non parked position, then lift them off.
Yes VW, you again.
Though in your defence you do have a maintenance position which is quite easy to select. Just that you have to have an accurate weather forecast and with the state of Mystic met and others these days then this is all rendered somewhat moot.
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