Anyone here had a no fault claim and not told their ins co?
Anyone here had a no fault claim and not told their ins co?
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Mr Bimmer

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283 posts

194 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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My car has been dented by another driver who admits full liability. Their insurance company are going to sort out the damage.

Now I know that legally you are supposed to let your insurance company know when someone hits your car, but I am insured with Admiral. This might not seem a problem, but once Admiral have been notified, they will increase my next renewal by at least £250

How can this be fair when the incident was 100% the other drivers fault?

Will Admiral be informed of the incident if I don't report it?

Ray Luxury-Yacht

8,918 posts

246 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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I think you meant to ask 'Does anyone on here know someone who had a no fault claim and not told their ins co?

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NiceCupOfTea

25,586 posts

281 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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They will ask at renewal time and you have to tell them.

To be fair I don't think it has affected my wife's premium (some gorilla drove into her and threatened her a few years back - went all on his insurance and she got her excess back).

genericguy

243 posts

206 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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I had a similar issue, I spoke to my broker today and they said I should definitely tell my insurance co.
Said to specify it is for notification purposes only.
I don't think it is a legal requirement though.

16v stretch

990 posts

187 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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There is no real system in place to check that your vehicle was involved in accident x with vehicle y at z date. The MID just shows Vehicle details and Policy Number/Insurance contact details.

The TP insurers will be happy to deal with you direct as involving your insurance could result in them paying out extra fee's for hire car etc. So if they don't tell them, and you don't tell them...

However, in a situation where there is a non fault accident settled by the TP insurers, it shouldn't make a difference to your premium if you're insured through a decent company and would most likely just result in a file log.

Mr Bimmer

Original Poster:

283 posts

194 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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16v stretch said:
There is no real system in place to check that your vehicle was involved in accident x with vehicle y at z date. The MID just shows Vehicle details and Policy Number/Insurance contact details.

The TP insurers will be happy to deal with you direct as involving your insurance could result in them paying out extra fee's for hire car etc. So if they don't tell them, and you don't tell them...

However, in a situation where there is a non fault accident settled by the TP insurers, it shouldn't make a difference to your premium if you're insured through a decent company and would most likely just result in a file log.
That's the crux of the problem. The Admiral group will definitely charge more at renewal even if I just log it with them. It just doesn't seem fair.

Mike Scott

422 posts

211 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Ensure that you tell them as it dosent generally effect the premium.
A friend had his car stolen, on making a claim they refused to pay out as he didnt tell them about a non fault claim that he had made.

If they can find an excuse not to pay out then the will!!!!!

Prof Prolapse

16,163 posts

220 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Mr Bimmer said:
That's the crux of the problem. The Admiral group will definitely charge more at renewal even if I just log it with them. It just doesn't seem fair.
Agreed, but you can bet your arse they will adjust their payout accordingly if you don't declare and they investigate.

I got stung for years for the fact somebody smashed into my car whilst parked. I didn't even claim, I just rang them up to see if they'd cover any of the legal fees. Premium went up, despite no further action.

I bit the bullet and declared, you can try elsewhere if you find that morally reprehensible, you'll probably get a better service as well but you'll have to pay for it of course.



ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Your reg and details will be noted on the claims database by the other insurer, Admiral group like many other companies cross reference information to find out if a claim has occurred and not disclosed (either at new business with CUE or mid-term via Hunter searches) this could result in an additional amount of premium to be paid.
Page 7 of the Admiral policy booklet states you must tell them if you or any driver named on the policy are involved in an accident or if the vehicle is damaged.

Mr Bimmer

Original Poster:

283 posts

194 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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ZOLLAR said:
Your reg and details will be noted on the claims database by the other insurer, Admiral group like many other companies cross reference information to find out if a claim has occurred and not disclosed (either at new business with CUE or mid-term via Hunter searches) this could result in an additional amount of premium to be paid.
Page 7 of the Admiral policy booklet states you must tell them if you or any driver named on the policy are involved in an accident or if the vehicle is damaged.
That's the kind of info I was looking for, thanks.

It looks like i'm stuffed then. Goodbye Admiral group at renewal.

Gizmo!

18,150 posts

239 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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Just to nore: there is good statistical evidence that a driver who has been the 'innocent victim' once is more likely to be again. My mum went through a phase a few years back where her car was magnetic... no real reason, just that people kept reversing into her, rear-ending her, etc.

citizen_smith

286 posts

215 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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you should ALWAYS declare, because the other party may change their mind and blame YOU for the accident, and then your insurance company will be asking why you haven't told them about the accident.

OllieC

3,816 posts

244 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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I can't be the only person who thinks that unless you have a posh motor (several grands worth minimum) that claiming anything via insurance be it your own policy or someone else's is often not worth the bother and cost ?


Dids444

419 posts

250 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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I must admit I thought it was a leagl requirement to notify your insurance company of any accidents.

It is annoying though as I was involved in a smash back in February. Third party completely held his hands up and everything was sorted out pretty quickly because of this, however my renewal with Aviva came through this month at £160 more than last year - the main reason being the accident frown

NiceCupOfTea

25,586 posts

281 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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ZOLLAR said:
Your reg and details will be noted on the claims database by the other insurer, Admiral group like many other companies cross reference information to find out if a claim has occurred and not disclosed (either at new business with CUE or mid-term via Hunter searches) this could result in an additional amount of premium to be paid.
Page 7 of the Admiral policy booklet states you must tell them if you or any driver named on the policy are involved in an accident or if the vehicle is damaged.
Zollar, can you confirm something for me? If you have 2 cars on 2 policies, and have a prang in one car (and obviously liase with that insurer), do you have to inform the other insurer before renewal? I was told not in a thread a couple of months back.

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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NiceCupOfTea said:
Zollar, can you confirm something for me? If you have 2 cars on 2 policies, and have a prang in one car (and obviously liase with that insurer), do you have to inform the other insurer before renewal? I was told not in a thread a couple of months back.
If you are the policyholder of both cars or named on both cars then yes, the claims question is regarding the drivers history not the cars history.

HTH

groovylee

67 posts

185 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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i might have known someone a few years ago, that had two different cars on different insurance policies (albeit with the same insurer) and the car on the classic policy was written off. completely my friends fault (hit an off duty policewoman up the back). all sorted through insurance, classic policy was cancelled, car bought back etc etc. come renewal time for the main car, still the right number of years of no claims, renewed with no penalties. he didn't disclose to his new company when he changed insurers. never had a problem as far as i'm aware.

shakermikee

567 posts

185 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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What is the point in protecting your no claims bonus?

I have always had mine protected, but when it comes to renewal you have to declare previous accidents (only one recent accident in the last 17 years) and it affects your quotation.


NiceCupOfTea

25,586 posts

281 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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ZOLLAR said:
NiceCupOfTea said:
Zollar, can you confirm something for me? If you have 2 cars on 2 policies, and have a prang in one car (and obviously liase with that insurer), do you have to inform the other insurer before renewal? I was told not in a thread a couple of months back.
If you are the policyholder of both cars or named on both cars then yes, the claims question is regarding the drivers history not the cars history.

HTH
Bloody hell. Is it for info or are they going to want more money out of me?

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

203 months

Friday 20th May 2011
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shakermikee said:
What is the point in protecting your no claims bonus?

I have always had mine protected, but when it comes to renewal you have to declare previous accidents (only one recent accident in the last 17 years) and it affects your quotation.
PNCB protects the discount you've built when you have an accident.