The figures demonstrate the longevity of MG and Rover Cars.
Discussion
For this MG and Rover enthusiast, this made interesting reading :~
http://www.greenflag.com/news/stories/nearly-1m-mg...
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http://www.greenflag.com/news/stories/nearly-1m-mg...
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Now hear this :~
http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories//tm...
Back in April 2005, shortly after I bought my last new MG, I thought it would be the last time I do so. Maybe not after all....
http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-stories//tm...
Back in April 2005, shortly after I bought my last new MG, I thought it would be the last time I do so. Maybe not after all....
I am proud to own various BMC classics mainly Mini variants with a Wolseley 4/50 and a 1275 Midget.
Always had an A series car about always will. Great engine. Wonderful robust unburstable design I love it.
However the Japanese have demonstrated how to improve engineering and eradicate faults. The 5.000,000the Mini had just the same faults as the first one.
And generally the rust proofing on Austin/Rover products was woefully inadequate.
But the Gerald Palmer cars and the Issigonis cars undoubtedly have something and are generally still up to modern traffic although at the limit on motorways.
And generally mine are reliable and I can maintain them which with injection etc is no longer true of my daily drivers.
Always had an A series car about always will. Great engine. Wonderful robust unburstable design I love it.
However the Japanese have demonstrated how to improve engineering and eradicate faults. The 5.000,000the Mini had just the same faults as the first one.
And generally the rust proofing on Austin/Rover products was woefully inadequate.
But the Gerald Palmer cars and the Issigonis cars undoubtedly have something and are generally still up to modern traffic although at the limit on motorways.
And generally mine are reliable and I can maintain them which with injection etc is no longer true of my daily drivers.
VeeFour said:
Why break the habit of a lifetime.
Ugly, badly built from poor materials and screwed together by job-shy Brummies.
The company ownership may have changed, but by all accounts the cars are just as bad as they ever were.
I wondered how long it would be. What a miserable, misguided and inaccurate contribution. Ugly, badly built from poor materials and screwed together by job-shy Brummies.
The company ownership may have changed, but by all accounts the cars are just as bad as they ever were.
You are not alone with that mindset, sadly far from it. Explains much why we are now an also run nation in deep financial excrement.
I was at an X-Part Rover specialist only this morning looking for a metal dipstick for my Elise. I asked him how business was and he said they're flat out. Nice to see there's still a good number on the roads.
I've seen plenty of MGF's and MG TF's today in the sunshine too. Hardly surprising as I think they were Britains biggest selling convertible car every year they were on sale up until the demise of Rover.
I've seen plenty of MGF's and MG TF's today in the sunshine too. Hardly surprising as I think they were Britains biggest selling convertible car every year they were on sale up until the demise of Rover.
MGJohn said:
I wondered how long it would be. What a miserable, misguided and inaccurate contribution.
You are not alone with that mindset, sadly far from it. Explains much why we are now an also run nation in deep financial excrement.
Alternatively, you've been sucked in by all the hype.You are not alone with that mindset, sadly far from it. Explains much why we are now an also run nation in deep financial excrement.
My mother in law has just bought one of the last Chinese TFs - despite everyone telling her that a nearly new MX5 would be a much better purchase - and this is after the F she bought brand new and had main dealer serviced spat its HG at 30k miles. Some people never learn and buy on the badge and 'Britishness' regardless....
Given that the UK churns out millions of much better cars on behalf of foreign owners, with much more local content, or certainly a lot more EU content - I fail to see why anyone would willingly spend their own money on an MG 'Because it's British'.
And to think there was huge objection to the idea of selling Austin Rover to Honda all those years ago, too. A move which would have secured a proper manufacturing future for the company, rather than leave us with a small factory bolting together Chinese kits.
pixieporsche said:
I've got 2 MGs and 1 Rover in the fleet. All three are well behaved and not one MG I've ever owned has not got me home.
I've had the RAC out twice in the last 3 months for mine(ZS) and had to get trailered home(No tow-eye on my car FFS). That said, it's for the same issue, which i've since upgraded to non-rover(Honda) parts to stop it re-occurring. and not one MG I've ever owned has not got me home. pixieporsche said:
I've got 2 MGs and 1 Rover in the fleet. All three are well behaved and not one MG I've ever owned has not got me home.
I believe you. There are more than that in my own and my family's ownership. I have never had an unreliable MG or Rover in half a century of car ownership, unlike other marques I could mention. and not one MG I've ever owned has not got me home. The last one I bought new, an MGZS 1.8 used by my wife mainly, has been faultless. It has the "They all do that" 1.8 K-Series engine only it has not after eight years. My car has never been professionally serviced ~ do it all myself ~ If it does the "They all do that" head gasket spit as V4 so describes, unlikely, it's a doddle to fix. Main dealership servicing is never a guarantee of a job well done. Here I do speak from personal experience, mainly with company cars, not my own.
So V4, you can continue to consume and regurgitate the "They all do that so called HGF hype" avidly. I shall not....ever.
shaun442k said:
pixieporsche said:
I've got 2 MGs and 1 Rover in the fleet. All three are well behaved and not one MG I've ever owned has not got me home.
I've had the RAC out twice in the last 3 months for mine(ZS) and had to get trailered home(No tow-eye on my car FFS). That said, it's for the same issue, which i've since upgraded to non-rover(Honda) parts to stop it re-occurring. and not one MG I've ever owned has not got me home. MGJohn said:
I believe you. There are more than that in my own and my family's ownership. I have never had an unreliable MG or Rover in half a century of car ownership, unlike other marques I could mention.
The last one I bought new, an MGZS 1.8 used by my wife mainly, has been faultless. It has the "They all do that" 1.8 K-Series engine only it has not after eight years. My car has never been professionally serviced ~ do it all myself ~ If it does the "They all do that" head gasket spit as V4 so describes, unlikely, it's a doddle to fix. Main dealership servicing is never a guarantee of a job well done. Here I do speak from personal experience, mainly with company cars, not my own.
So V4, you can continue to consume and regurgitate the "They all do that so called HGF hype" avidly. I shall not....ever.
Yeah, it's dead easy to fix in the arse of an MGF... when I rolled up in my MX5 at my local trusted mechanic's place to pay a bill, we had a bit of a chat (about why I'd sold my track toy and bought the 5 etc) - told him I'd considered an F, to which he replied that if I had, I'd be looking for a new mechanic. He's seen too many of them and considers them to be more hassle than they're worth.The last one I bought new, an MGZS 1.8 used by my wife mainly, has been faultless. It has the "They all do that" 1.8 K-Series engine only it has not after eight years. My car has never been professionally serviced ~ do it all myself ~ If it does the "They all do that" head gasket spit as V4 so describes, unlikely, it's a doddle to fix. Main dealership servicing is never a guarantee of a job well done. Here I do speak from personal experience, mainly with company cars, not my own.
So V4, you can continue to consume and regurgitate the "They all do that so called HGF hype" avidly. I shall not....ever.
I'm not sure why you consider a head gasket to be a minor issue, as to me, it's a bloody big problem and one which you shouldn't have to worry about until the car is well into its second decade / 150k miles+ old.
VeeFour said:
MGJohn said:
I believe you. There are more than that in my own and my family's ownership. I have never had an unreliable MG or Rover in half a century of car ownership, unlike other marques I could mention.
The last one I bought new, an MGZS 1.8 used by my wife mainly, has been faultless. It has the "They all do that" 1.8 K-Series engine only it has not after eight years. My car has never been professionally serviced ~ do it all myself ~ If it does the "They all do that" head gasket spit as V4 so describes, unlikely, it's a doddle to fix. Main dealership servicing is never a guarantee of a job well done. Here I do speak from personal experience, mainly with company cars, not my own.
So V4, you can continue to consume and regurgitate the "They all do that so called HGF hype" avidly. I shall not....ever.
Yeah, it's dead easy to fix in the arse of an MGF... when I rolled up in my MX5 at my local trusted mechanic's place to pay a bill, we had a bit of a chat (about why I'd sold my track toy and bought the 5 etc) - told him I'd considered an F, to which he replied that if I had, I'd be looking for a new mechanic. He's seen too many of them and considers them to be more hassle than they're worth.The last one I bought new, an MGZS 1.8 used by my wife mainly, has been faultless. It has the "They all do that" 1.8 K-Series engine only it has not after eight years. My car has never been professionally serviced ~ do it all myself ~ If it does the "They all do that" head gasket spit as V4 so describes, unlikely, it's a doddle to fix. Main dealership servicing is never a guarantee of a job well done. Here I do speak from personal experience, mainly with company cars, not my own.
So V4, you can continue to consume and regurgitate the "They all do that so called HGF hype" avidly. I shall not....ever.
I'm not sure why you consider a head gasket to be a minor issue, as to me, it's a bloody big problem and one which you shouldn't have to worry about until the car is well into its second decade / 150k miles+ old.
MGJohn said:
shaun442k said:
MGJohn said:
So, what was the issue?
Slave clutch first time. Bracket for the slave the second time, causing the slave cylinder to fail again(so garage wouldn't honour warranty). Upgraded to Sheddist kit now..... is it a ZS180?Had an MGF also- 15k in 6 months with zero issues. Guess it depends on the history of the car and your luck.
t jobs like that.VeeFour said:
Alternatively, you've been sucked in by all the hype.
My mother in law has just bought one of the last Chinese TFs - despite everyone telling her that a nearly new MX5 would be a much better purchase - and this is after the F she bought brand new and had main dealer serviced spat its HG at 30k miles. Some people never learn and buy on the badge and 'Britishness' regardless....
Given that the UK churns out millions of much better cars on behalf of foreign owners, with much more local content, or certainly a lot more EU content - I fail to see why anyone would willingly spend their own money on an MG 'Because it's British'.
And to think there was huge objection to the idea of selling Austin Rover to Honda all those years ago, too. A move which would have secured a proper manufacturing future for the company, rather than leave us with a small factory bolting together Chinese kits.
I think there's someone on Ph who was at an Elise track day or something like that. But he had asked the chief mechanics about the engines and was told that the K-series were actually a hell of a lot more reliable than the later Toyota engines(?) put in them.My mother in law has just bought one of the last Chinese TFs - despite everyone telling her that a nearly new MX5 would be a much better purchase - and this is after the F she bought brand new and had main dealer serviced spat its HG at 30k miles. Some people never learn and buy on the badge and 'Britishness' regardless....
Given that the UK churns out millions of much better cars on behalf of foreign owners, with much more local content, or certainly a lot more EU content - I fail to see why anyone would willingly spend their own money on an MG 'Because it's British'.
And to think there was huge objection to the idea of selling Austin Rover to Honda all those years ago, too. A move which would have secured a proper manufacturing future for the company, rather than leave us with a small factory bolting together Chinese kits.
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