RE: You Know You Want To... Alpina C2 2.7
RE: You Know You Want To... Alpina C2 2.7
Monday 6th June 2011

You Know You Want To... Alpina C2 2.7

Alpina's riposte, to the M3, and one for those who feel four-cylinder engines are for girls



Back in the late-eighties, when city bankers wore red braces and William Woolard was presenting Top Gear (usually with one foot up on the front bumper and his elbow on his knee), the Sierra RS Cosworth, Mercedes Benz 190-E Cosworth, and BMW M3 were the performance four-seater cars of choice. The debate about which is the one to have will go on ad-infinitum, but here we've found an alternative - although, yes, it's still basically another BMW...

Available only through Sytner's of Nottingham, the Alpina C2 featured a much-improved 2.7-litre version of the 325 engine and a raft of suspension improvements including re-worked geometry as well as a subtle (..compared with the M3's) body kit and some tasteful additions to the interior. It's hard to tell how many were built, but the number would appear to be under 200, which make this a much rarer car than the E30 M3. It could also be argued that, with a straight-six, it made a more appealing sound than any of its contemporaries too.


This Alpina C2 looks like a beauty. Its current owner is a BMW devotee and has pretty much owned the lot over the years and searched long and hard for this C2, although he admitted "...the stripes might not be to everybody's taste, and it's appetite for fuel borders on madness. But sincerely it's one of the best BMWs to drive, and the noise is intoxicating."

The car appears to be in superb original order and comes with an extensive history file - including the original service booklet and owner's handbook - and all the numbers match on the engine and body shell. It's up for £8495 ono which, compared at least with the price of a good E30 M3 (you're talking at least £10k-£15k there), is very good value bearing in mind that there's probably not a lot of difference in the performance. Or would you prefer a Cosworth Sierra or 190-E?





 

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Beefmeister

Original Poster:

16,482 posts

260 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Dear Mr lovely Alpina seller,

If you want me to buy your gorgeous example of automotive bonkersness, could you please kindly

TELL ME THE F**KING MILEAGE

Thanks ever so much.

Angry, of New Delhi

MrSpike

3,953 posts

214 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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I think it looks better for the stripes personally!

Doofus

34,392 posts

203 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Beefmeister said:
TELL ME THE F**KING MILEAGE
Not that I'm sure it's too important, given the history file, but I think it's a hundred and forty odd thousand

macp

4,823 posts

213 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Doofus said:
Not that I'm sure it's too important, given the history file, but I think it's a hundred and forty odd thousand
Its important from a pricing point of view though shirley ?

lordlee

3,137 posts

275 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Saw that at the Beaulieu autojumble last month. Its a minter alright but its overpriced IMO.

Beefmeister

Original Poster:

16,482 posts

260 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Doofus said:
Not that I'm sure it's too important, given the history file, but I think it's a hundred and forty odd thousand
If i'm spending £900 on a car, let alone £9000 i want to know the mileage, in the advert, in order to make an informed decision.

When i look at a car advert, and there is no mileage, rightly or wrongly i assume the seller has something to hide.

BobTurner

405 posts

240 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Doofus said:
Not that I'm sure it's too important, given the history file, but I think it's a hundred and forty odd thousand
Looks like it from the photo in the July edition of Classic Cars (the one with the Jensens on the front) - which has a slightly more substantial write up...

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Beefmeister said:
rightly or wrongly i assume the seller has something to hide.
generally six figures on the odo

DJRC

23,563 posts

266 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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How does that inform you of anything?

Its a 20 yr old motorcar, rule no 1 of buying said vehicles is "condition, not miles" reinforced only by rule no 2 "see rule 1".

Even with Fezzas and their milage sensitive prices its only a matter of a cpl of grand here or there depending on the mileage, the condition though determines how many grands you *will* pay during ownership. Condition, condition, condition. Mileage is just for show, for punters who think they know what they are talking about rather than those who have learnt their wallet emptying lessons the hard way.

Jw Vw

4,922 posts

193 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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I like that Alpina a lot. Ditch the stripes though.

Oddball RS

1,757 posts

248 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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sleep envy said:
generally six figures on the odo
Correct on the last two points!

EcosseBMW

179 posts

185 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Seen one the other day taking part in the youngmeister tour in Germany. It was the car that was behind the Alpina B10biturbo...took away the moment for the pretty car but I don't and have never seen it as anything too special compared to the B10 mentioned which for the money I'd rather have that and the 180+ mph that comes with it. Still pretty car though.

SR06

749 posts

216 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Jw Vw said:
I like that Alpina a lot. Ditch the stripes though.
Ditch the stripes and ditch its herritage...

Would you ditch the striped on a Shelby Cobra?



ferrari 360 challenge stradale?



BMW 2002?



Or Escort Mexico?



Striped are cult on the right car.

Doofus

34,392 posts

203 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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DJRC said:
Its a 20 yr old motorcar, rule no 1 of buying said vehicles is "condition, not miles" reinforced only by rule no 2 "see rule 1".

Even with Fezzas and their milage sensitive prices its only a matter of a cpl of grand here or there depending on the mileage, the condition though determines how many grands you *will* pay during ownership. Condition, condition, condition. Mileage is just for show, for punters who think they know what they are talking about rather than those who have learnt their wallet emptying lessons the hard way.
Exactly smile

Chris71

21,549 posts

272 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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I'm not a huge BMW fan on the whole, but I do love Alpinas. Have a strange hankering for a C2 2.7 Touring.

hesnotthemessiah

2,121 posts

234 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Love Alpinas! And definitely keep the stripes! smile

British Beef

2,572 posts

195 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Stunning car, for the cost of a new Clio 1.2 you could get one of these.

Not a fan of the stripes (despite the heritage).

My only concern is the availability and cost of Alpina specific parts - hard to come by??

Mermaid

21,492 posts

201 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Chris71 said:
... Have a strange hankering for a C2 2.7 Touring.
Good choice, if you can find one.

louiebaby

10,958 posts

221 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Mermaid said:
Chris71 said:
... Have a strange hankering for a C2 2.7 Touring.
Good choice, if you can find one.
Did they ever make them?

That would have to go on my list if so...

Hellbound

2,515 posts

206 months

Monday 6th June 2011
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Personally, I'd rather spend a small fortune on a 50k miler than a car with 200k on the clock. But that's just my own little hang up.
Still, if the mileage really doesn't matter (and at 140k in this condition, it shouldn't), why not put it down? Seems a little silly to me.

As for stripes, I prefer mine gold;

http://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/showDetails.html...

Front heavy with the 3.5....but could you say no to a M3 bodied B6 3.5S? smile


Whatever you think of them, the cars in question and the one for sale in the above article are worth a lot more in left hand drive form. That means they've been assembled by Alpina in Buchloe, Germany. RHD cars were 'converted' in the UK from standard.

Edited by Hellbound on Monday 6th June 10:19