Does anyone else worry about......
Does anyone else worry about......
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mgmrw2003

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20,951 posts

186 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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OLD PEOPLE DRIVING!


Spent last week on holiday in North Yorkshire and saw the following 3 things:

1) regularly old people in Honda Jizz/Vaux Agila/Suzuki Wagon R/Nissan Micra.. doing 1/3 or 1/2 the speed limit, not indicating and generally driving in a shocking manner. Several times within 4days they nearly caused accidents.

2) OAP in his 70s, DRIVING DOWN THE ROAD WITH HIS DOG TIED TO THE TOW-BAR....... When stopped, his reasoning was: "I forgot I'd tied him to that..... thought the wife would of reminded me" ...... luckily the dog was ok, just shocked.

3) Elderly woman, 80ish, in vaux corsa..... held up the centre of one little village for OVER 10MINUTES......... trying to park in a space. In this time she stalled at least a dozen times, ground gears, and bumped 4cars (1each side, 1 in front, and 1 behind).... In the end a passer by, who she appeared to know, parked it for her.

4) (2months ago near where the OH works) Elderly gentleman drives the wrong way down a one way street at me, and then shouts abuse out the window that Im blocking his way.
When I point out that its a one way, his reply "I never saw the signs..... you'll have to reverse as I wont be able to all the way back there"

Am I alone in wondering HOW THESE PEOPLE DO NOT CAUSE SERIOUS ACCIDENTS? And surely we should have a compulsory re-test every 20years?

Even my own father (in his 50s) has passed 40years ago, and agrees that he should. Him and my mother did IAM as a way of checking up on their bad habits and downwards slide in level of ability.

StottyZr

6,860 posts

192 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Oddly enought I don't really see old people driving extremely badly. I hear alot about it, never see it for myself!

fatboy b

9,665 posts

245 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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mgmrw2003 said:
OLD PEOPLE DRIVING!



Am I alone in wondering HOW THESE PEOPLE DO NOT CAUSE SERIOUS ACCIDENTS? And surely we should have a compulsory re-test every 20years?
They do cause serious accidents. I'd rather see a retest a bit sooner than 20 years though.

XJ84

303 posts

185 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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I agree with stotty here.
People talk about this phenomenon, but I never see it for myself. I see old people driving a bit slowly but that's about it.

That example with the dog is just shocking, and that example of the old lady trying to park just reminds me of being in france...

denniswise9

539 posts

186 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Are you one of them??

mgmrw2003 said:
......saw the following 3 things:

1) regularly........

2) OAP ............

3) Elderly ...........

4) 2months.........

eybic

9,212 posts

203 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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I see it quite regularly. The current system is a joke, all they have to do is fill in a form stating they are still fit to drive. No medical or any kind of tests. Re-tests would be good I think, even for younger people to ensure all the skills have been retained.

trickywoo

14,166 posts

259 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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I had the pleasure of seeing the old person automatic 'runaway' thing.

Duffer in a an auto Prelude, car park, fires it up, into reverse, foot on the accelerator (thinking it was the brake) car starts moving. Foot hard down on the accelerator (thinking it was the brake) through a garden fence and luckily stranded on a tree stump half way up someones garden. Lucky really as I'm sure they would have ended up in the front room otherwise.

Foot still hard down on the accelerator while in the air on the stump. Didn't really look bothered.

roachcoach

3,975 posts

184 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Yes, yes I do.

Although, they're not all like that. I remember a good few years back now I let a car out up in the highlands, too late I saw the old boy behind the wheel and turned to my mrs and said "Well, I'll regret that", turned around again and he was already gone. Like gooooooooooooooooooooone. Must've been a local.

Was epic, we had a right old chuckle about that.

Man from UNCLE

3,762 posts

247 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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sleep

V88Dicky

7,368 posts

212 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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I'm sure there are plenty of old folks whose driving is shocking, but, on a day to day basis with my commute, I see more cases of appalling driving from two main sources;

1) Young lads, probably not been driving long. Could be in a barry'd up stbox but not necessarily.

2) Angry 40+ blokes, driving badly maintained older mainstream cars like Mondeos/Vectras etc. Sometimes the car is not legal in some way or other. These are usually very aggressive and will often gesticulate wildly for you to pull over for a 'chat'.*

*Happened last week to myself as I drove up a slip road that goes from 2 lanes to 1, with the left lane having right of way. He was inches away from sideswiping me before he slapped on his brakes and pulled in behind me, absolutely frothing at the mouth and jumping up and down in his seat. A warm(ish) day, so naturally he was wearing nothing on his upper body but his hi-viz vest. The aircon in his gold Rover 620 must have packed in.

Best avoid loons like these, really wink

lunaunderscores

89 posts

187 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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one happened in our area at the weekend
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/20...

mind you, people like to get airborne around these parts

http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/20...

crazy weekend


kambites

71,475 posts

250 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Just retest everyone every five years and be done with it.

mgmrw2003

Original Poster:

20,951 posts

186 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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XJ84 said:
I agree with stotty here.
People talk about this phenomenon, but I never see it for myself. I see old people driving a bit slowly but that's about it.

That example with the dog is just shocking, and that example of the old lady trying to park just reminds me of being in france...
I dont see it much when at home, more school run mums that are the issue... Don't know if working monday-friday keeps me out of OAP's way.

But last week, was like groundhog day for them.

The old guy with the dog, found it funny.... Being a bittova "save the animals" variety I was all on for calling the RSPCA, until the OH advised I should calm down. Was more the fact that 3 people tried gaining his attention by STANDING IN FRONT OF HIS CAR AND WAVING ARMS and he "didnt see them".


(other poster - as for the counting thing, number 4 came to mind as wrote 3... WOOPS)

mgmrw2003

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186 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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fatboy b said:
They do cause serious accidents. I'd rather see a retest a bit sooner than 20 years though.
the OH recalled within last 12months the case of the old chap who drove across asda car-park with his mrs under the car. Killed her. Only realised when a bunch of people jumped in front of the car to stop him.

OR the old chap who drove over his mrs, because the brake and throttle pedals became "the wrong way around" in his head

mgmrw2003

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Monday 13th June 2011
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kambites said:
Just retest everyone every five years and be done with it.
+1 though I suspect 10years would work out more practical.

kambites

71,475 posts

250 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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mgmrw2003 said:
kambites said:
Just retest everyone every five years and be done with it.
+1 though I suspect 10years would work out more practical.
Mental health (and ability to drive for a variety of other reasons) can degrade an awful lot in 10 years.

motco

17,618 posts

275 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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I have my suspicions that bad older drivers were often bad younger drivers once.

mgmrw2003

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Monday 13th June 2011
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kambites said:
mgmrw2003 said:
kambites said:
Just retest everyone every five years and be done with it.
+1 though I suspect 10years would work out more practical.
Mental health (and ability to drive for a variety of other reasons) can degrade an awful lot in 10 years.
Couldn't agree more. I remember as a child, watching my grandmother in a decade period degrade massively. She FINALLY handed in her license at 74, BUT only because my father banned her from buying another car after she'd written off no less than 4 austin mini's inside 10years.

  1. 1 - she drove into the back of a parked transit at 40mph, because she "didnt see it had stopped"
  2. 2 - she shoved into her own gate post at 20+mph
  3. 3 - she drove off a 3ft drop from her own driveway into the neighbours, and then carried on into the garage
  4. 4 - the final stand - she carried straight on out of a T junction and into the RangeRover that "came from nowhere"


My other grandmother was no better, just slower, so her rover 214 bounced from gatepost to gatepost and garage wall to garage wall. She gave-up once the onset of dementia/alzheimers was confirmed at 63

The Wookie

14,209 posts

257 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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StottyZr said:
Oddly enought I don't really see old people driving extremely badly. I hear alot about it, never see it for myself!
Try driving at about 11am on a Sunday within 10 miles of a church, or any time between 8 and 3 on a Saturday within 20 miles of a Garden Centre.

Cartloads

29 posts

234 months

Monday 13th June 2011
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Even my own father (in his 50s) has passed 40years ago, and agrees that he should. Him and my mother did IAM as a way of checking up on their bad habits and downwards slide in level of ability.
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