Dunkirk to Rimini, Italy avoiding some tolls
Dunkirk to Rimini, Italy avoiding some tolls
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uk_vette

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3,336 posts

233 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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Hello all.

I am concidering a car trip from Dunkirk to Rimini, Italy.
I want to avoid some tolls.
I know some toll roads are worth using, and some are not worth using to a degree.

Should I just use Google Maps, and follow their suggestion?
France, Belguim, Lux, France, Germany, Switzerland, Italy.
If I tick the box to "Avoid tolls", journey time increases from about 13,5 hours to about 18,5 h.
So clearly, some tolls should be used, but which ones?

V.

B'stard Child

31,097 posts

275 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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uk_vette said:
Hello all.

I am concidering a car trip from Dunkirk to Rimini, Italy.
I want to avoid some tolls.
I know some toll roads are worth using, and some are not worth using to a degree.

Should I just use Google Maps, and follow their suggestion?
France, Belguim, Lux, France, Germany, Switzerland, Italy.
If I tick the box to "Avoid tolls", journey time increases from about 13,5 hours to about 18,5 h.
So clearly, some tolls should be used, but which ones?

V.
From memory - the switzerland bit isn't some much a toll rather a "14 mth pass" to use any of the roads and if you go thro it it's unavoidable

According to the link below it's 40 Swiss Francs (30 Euro)

http://www.autobahnen.ch/index.php?lg=001&page...

Having said that it was worth it just for the tunnels

Last time I went to Umbria I did all the way thro France sans tolls and the only toll I paid was for the swiss leg

Can't remember paying any tolls in Italy - but it was a while back




Edited by B'stard Child on Saturday 18th June 14:38

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

192 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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As far as i know ,all autostradas in Italy are toll so would be difficult

or very lengthy to avoid .

At least the route to Rimini is straightforward smile

Been to Misano twice before,next door to Rimini

uk_vette

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233 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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I can't decide if to avoid Switzerland, stay in Germany, heading more south, and head through Austria.
Switzerland has only a 1 year viggnete, (need 2 with a trailer) and Austria can get a 2 month vignette.
Ideas?

V.

B'stard Child

31,097 posts

275 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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uk_vette said:
I can't decide if to avoid Switzerland, stay in Germany, heading more south, and head through Austria.
Switzerland has only a 1 year viggnete, (need 2 with a trailer) and Austria can get a 2 month vignette.
Ideas?

V.
Swiss

The trailer thing hurts

€31.50 x 2

Austria

€23.5 x 1


iva cosworth

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192 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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Didnt know Austria did a vignette.

Last time i went to Italy i went via Ring then down to Innsbruck Austria,

was going to go to Stelvio ,but didnt.

Driving into Italy on the A22 Brennero road even at peak time on a Monday morning

was pure pleasure ,a 2 lane motorway and all the trucks kept to lane 1 and all the cars

passed in lane 2 at 70-80.That road leads straight into Modena and Maranello

uk_vette

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Saturday 18th June 2011
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The killer is pulling a trailer, as it needs a vignette for each vehicle.
I know that if you don't use the certain roads in Switzerland, then you don't need th vignette.
However I see it as unavoidable to go any where in Switzerland without going on the highways.
It wouldn't be so bad, but you have to buy a full year , ie, a full 12 months, which to me stinks.
They come to our UK roads, we don't charge them, why do they charge us?
At least for Austria, they sell, 10 days, 1 month, 2 months etc, which I feel is much more fair.

So perhaps the trip will run the "north to south of Germany, then Austria and Italy.
Ideas?
V.

B'stard Child

31,097 posts

275 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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uk_vette said:
The killer is pulling a trailer, as it needs a vignette for each vehicle.
I know that if you don't use the certain roads in Switzerland, then you don't need th vignette.
However I see it as unavoidable to go any where in Switzerland without going on the highways.
It wouldn't be so bad, but you have to buy a full year , ie, a full 12 months, which to me stinks.
Actualy if you purchase one now you only get 8 mths

uk_vette said:
They come to our UK roads, we don't charge them, why do they charge us?
And I wonder why our governments have never considered it........ Oh yes I remember VED has nothing to do with manitaining the roads

uk_vette said:
At least for Austria, they sell, 10 days, 1 month, 2 months etc, which I feel is much more fair.

So perhaps the trip will run the "north to south of Germany, then Austria and Italy.
Ideas?
V.
Go right down to the bottom of France and into Italy that way?

uk_vette

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Saturday 18th June 2011
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There are many tolls in France.
In Germany, vehicles under 3,5 ton, are not tolled.
Just teh trucks over 12 ton.
So that why I think maybe cheaper to head south through Germany.
Ideas any one?

V.

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

192 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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This is last August on A22 autostrada Monday morning,heading for Lucca .

Decided to share it with you


uk_vette

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Saturday 18th June 2011
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Thanks, thats a very beautiful area.
Nice smooth, empty road ahead.

What was your route from UK ?
About how much driving each day did you do?
How long to get to Italy?

V.

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

192 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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uk_vette said:
Thanks, thats a very beautiful area.
Nice smooth, empty road ahead.

What was your route from UK ?
About how much driving each day did you do?
How long to get to Italy?

V.
Itinerary

Friday....Full day at work
Friday night...Ferry to Calais
Saturday.Early....drive to Sliders guesthouse Dollendorf,couple of hours sleep in car on the way
Saturday pm.....lap of the ring,just 1 ,its raining
Sunday am.....drive to Stuttgart,Porsche museum and Munich,BMW
Sunday pm .....drive to other side of Innsbruck Austria ,sleep in service area[in car]
Monday am.....drive to Italy,stop at Maranello for Galleria Ferrari[3rd visit]
Monday pm....drive down SS12[sort of A road]to village outside of Lucca ,staying in my sisters
holiday house
smile

5potTurbo

13,679 posts

197 months

Saturday 18th June 2011
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uk_vette said:
There are many tolls in France.
In Germany, vehicles under 3,5 ton, are not tolled.
Just teh trucks over 12 ton.
So that why I think maybe cheaper to head south through Germany.
Ideas any one?

V.
As a Brit living in Luxembourg, you can certainly get from Dunkirk into Lux then into Germany or France without paying any tolls. However, if you want to go through Germany to get to Italy you can only avoid buying a Swiss vignette if you cross their border not using a motorway, e.g. at Basel. However, if you're caught without a vignette in Switzerland using their motorways, you'll be fined.
Going via Austria, you'll need a vignette too.... quite why Austria has them when they're part of the E.U., I don't know ....

Without adding about 5 or 6 hours to your driving time, you'll need to pay SOME tolls. I know it's not nice, but it's possible if you select your route as such in SatNav or using viamichelin.com.

I feel your pain - we recently took 2 cars to the west coast of France so I could continue straight on to Le Mans. That cost me a total of EUR320 in tolls in the last 3 weeks. *sobs*