Dunkirk to Rimini, Italy avoiding some tolls
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Hello all.
I am concidering a car trip from Dunkirk to Rimini, Italy.
I want to avoid some tolls.
I know some toll roads are worth using, and some are not worth using to a degree.
Should I just use Google Maps, and follow their suggestion?
France, Belguim, Lux, France, Germany, Switzerland, Italy.
If I tick the box to "Avoid tolls", journey time increases from about 13,5 hours to about 18,5 h.
So clearly, some tolls should be used, but which ones?
V.
I am concidering a car trip from Dunkirk to Rimini, Italy.
I want to avoid some tolls.
I know some toll roads are worth using, and some are not worth using to a degree.
Should I just use Google Maps, and follow their suggestion?
France, Belguim, Lux, France, Germany, Switzerland, Italy.
If I tick the box to "Avoid tolls", journey time increases from about 13,5 hours to about 18,5 h.
So clearly, some tolls should be used, but which ones?
V.
uk_vette said:
Hello all.
I am concidering a car trip from Dunkirk to Rimini, Italy.
I want to avoid some tolls.
I know some toll roads are worth using, and some are not worth using to a degree.
Should I just use Google Maps, and follow their suggestion?
France, Belguim, Lux, France, Germany, Switzerland, Italy.
If I tick the box to "Avoid tolls", journey time increases from about 13,5 hours to about 18,5 h.
So clearly, some tolls should be used, but which ones?
V.
From memory - the switzerland bit isn't some much a toll rather a "14 mth pass" to use any of the roads and if you go thro it it's unavoidableI am concidering a car trip from Dunkirk to Rimini, Italy.
I want to avoid some tolls.
I know some toll roads are worth using, and some are not worth using to a degree.
Should I just use Google Maps, and follow their suggestion?
France, Belguim, Lux, France, Germany, Switzerland, Italy.
If I tick the box to "Avoid tolls", journey time increases from about 13,5 hours to about 18,5 h.
So clearly, some tolls should be used, but which ones?
V.
According to the link below it's 40 Swiss Francs (30 Euro)
http://www.autobahnen.ch/index.php?lg=001&page...
Having said that it was worth it just for the tunnels
Last time I went to Umbria I did all the way thro France sans tolls and the only toll I paid was for the swiss leg
Can't remember paying any tolls in Italy - but it was a while back
Edited by B'stard Child on Saturday 18th June 14:38
Didnt know Austria did a vignette.
Last time i went to Italy i went via Ring then down to Innsbruck Austria,
was going to go to Stelvio ,but didnt.
Driving into Italy on the A22 Brennero road even at peak time on a Monday morning
was pure pleasure ,a 2 lane motorway and all the trucks kept to lane 1 and all the cars
passed in lane 2 at 70-80.That road leads straight into Modena and Maranello
Last time i went to Italy i went via Ring then down to Innsbruck Austria,
was going to go to Stelvio ,but didnt.
Driving into Italy on the A22 Brennero road even at peak time on a Monday morning
was pure pleasure ,a 2 lane motorway and all the trucks kept to lane 1 and all the cars
passed in lane 2 at 70-80.That road leads straight into Modena and Maranello
The killer is pulling a trailer, as it needs a vignette for each vehicle.
I know that if you don't use the certain roads in Switzerland, then you don't need th vignette.
However I see it as unavoidable to go any where in Switzerland without going on the highways.
It wouldn't be so bad, but you have to buy a full year , ie, a full 12 months, which to me stinks.
They come to our UK roads, we don't charge them, why do they charge us?
At least for Austria, they sell, 10 days, 1 month, 2 months etc, which I feel is much more fair.
So perhaps the trip will run the "north to south of Germany, then Austria and Italy.
Ideas?
V.
I know that if you don't use the certain roads in Switzerland, then you don't need th vignette.
However I see it as unavoidable to go any where in Switzerland without going on the highways.
It wouldn't be so bad, but you have to buy a full year , ie, a full 12 months, which to me stinks.
They come to our UK roads, we don't charge them, why do they charge us?
At least for Austria, they sell, 10 days, 1 month, 2 months etc, which I feel is much more fair.
So perhaps the trip will run the "north to south of Germany, then Austria and Italy.
Ideas?
V.
uk_vette said:
The killer is pulling a trailer, as it needs a vignette for each vehicle.
I know that if you don't use the certain roads in Switzerland, then you don't need th vignette.
However I see it as unavoidable to go any where in Switzerland without going on the highways.
It wouldn't be so bad, but you have to buy a full year , ie, a full 12 months, which to me stinks.
Actualy if you purchase one now you only get 8 mthsI know that if you don't use the certain roads in Switzerland, then you don't need th vignette.
However I see it as unavoidable to go any where in Switzerland without going on the highways.
It wouldn't be so bad, but you have to buy a full year , ie, a full 12 months, which to me stinks.
uk_vette said:
They come to our UK roads, we don't charge them, why do they charge us?
And I wonder why our governments have never considered it........ Oh yes I remember VED has nothing to do with manitaining the roadsuk_vette said:
At least for Austria, they sell, 10 days, 1 month, 2 months etc, which I feel is much more fair.
So perhaps the trip will run the "north to south of Germany, then Austria and Italy.
Ideas?
V.
Go right down to the bottom of France and into Italy that way?So perhaps the trip will run the "north to south of Germany, then Austria and Italy.
Ideas?
V.
uk_vette said:
Thanks, thats a very beautiful area.
Nice smooth, empty road ahead.
What was your route from UK ?
About how much driving each day did you do?
How long to get to Italy?
V.
ItineraryNice smooth, empty road ahead.
What was your route from UK ?
About how much driving each day did you do?
How long to get to Italy?
V.
Friday....Full day at work
Friday night...Ferry to Calais
Saturday.Early....drive to Sliders guesthouse Dollendorf,couple of hours sleep in car on the way
Saturday pm.....lap of the ring,just 1 ,its raining
Sunday am.....drive to Stuttgart,Porsche museum and Munich,BMW
Sunday pm .....drive to other side of Innsbruck Austria ,sleep in service area[in car]
Monday am.....drive to Italy,stop at Maranello for Galleria Ferrari[3rd visit]
Monday pm....drive down SS12[sort of A road]to village outside of Lucca ,staying in my sisters
holiday house

uk_vette said:
There are many tolls in France.
In Germany, vehicles under 3,5 ton, are not tolled.
Just teh trucks over 12 ton.
So that why I think maybe cheaper to head south through Germany.
Ideas any one?
V.
As a Brit living in Luxembourg, you can certainly get from Dunkirk into Lux then into Germany or France without paying any tolls. However, if you want to go through Germany to get to Italy you can only avoid buying a Swiss vignette if you cross their border not using a motorway, e.g. at Basel. However, if you're caught without a vignette in Switzerland using their motorways, you'll be fined.In Germany, vehicles under 3,5 ton, are not tolled.
Just teh trucks over 12 ton.
So that why I think maybe cheaper to head south through Germany.
Ideas any one?
V.
Going via Austria, you'll need a vignette too.... quite why Austria has them when they're part of the E.U., I don't know ....
Without adding about 5 or 6 hours to your driving time, you'll need to pay SOME tolls. I know it's not nice, but it's possible if you select your route as such in SatNav or using viamichelin.com.
I feel your pain - we recently took 2 cars to the west coast of France so I could continue straight on to Le Mans. That cost me a total of EUR320 in tolls in the last 3 weeks. *sobs*
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