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p1tse

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221 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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Anyone brought their private use car from auction alike

There seems to be a number of good selection, obviously each to their own condition, which has been graded.

Can real bargains be had, or traders just out play everyone else?

p1tse

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221 months

Tuesday 21st June 2011
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there's a BMW day at Colchester

tempted on the 335d touring 83k there
wander how much these fetch at auction

bassanclan

197 posts

271 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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2006 - BMW - 3 SERIES -
335D M SPORT - 3.0L - 5DR ESTATE

Cap Clean
£11,300
Cap Average
£10,450


Generally making 93 to 99% of CAP clean

p1tse

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1,412 posts

221 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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Thanks.
What does CAP stand for?

It's a grade c with some scratches and dents to door but obviously unsure if car park type dent or proper big dents?

Didnt see the reply. But I posted a new thread. Cars I've seen says mot expiry 2012, is there usually a physical one to enable to buy road tax? In mind buy and drive away that day?

My other thought is 08 plate 520d sport circa 80k grade b

If auction starts at 10, what time does viewing start and with circa 150 cars how fast does it go or finish time?

I'm a complete newbie to it


daemon

40,169 posts

226 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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p1tse said:
Thanks.
What does CAP stand for?
Car Auction Prices

Its a trade guide in the same was as Glasses Guide is.

kentmotorcompany

2,471 posts

239 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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Thought it was Current Auction Prices.

CAP is another price guide similar to Glass's.

Wouldn't take too much notice of an auctions grading system. Its done by an auction employee who (no disrespect to them) have many cars to work through, and they are not spending their own money buying the car, they just list faults they find. If its over a certain amount its gets a certain grading. Also it nearly always misses previous paintwork repair.

One bad fault fault on a young, low mileage expensive car could be quite a bad thing, it also might be quite grubby and worn inside, without having specific mark or tear to count in the grading system, but it might only be graded as 1.

Another older higher mileage, cheaper car with lots of small, but expected and forgivable marks might be graded as 5, and make it sound like a rubbish when in fact it might be totally original and really nice example when all things are considered.

Always judge it with your own eyes, before drawing any conclusions.


p1tse

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Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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Thanks
I've looked on what's Market advertised via Autotrader, checked vauxhall consumer part ex glass, parkers etc. As a rough guide my thoughts are similar to the above quotes, but obviously dependent on actual own eyes opinion.

Anyone know the deal with mot, taxing, driving it away etc?

Are cars locked, as won't be able to tell on trim, interior, boot, accessories, if engine bay looks complete with original plastics, screws etc?

va1o

16,113 posts

236 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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Its normally a good idea to turn up an hour beforehand to have a look. Cars are usually locked.

Lanby

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243 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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I'm toying with getting a 730D 2005-2008, are there any of those there?

We'll have to send V8Mate in undercover smile

p1tse

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Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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I'll have a look if any 730d.

Any ideas on mot, tax to drive away that day? How long does the day last. Ie if the car in question was last on list just gauging on timing

p1tse

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Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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Lanby said:
I'm toying with getting a 730D 2005-2008, are there any of those there?

We'll have to send V8Mate in undercover smile
4x 730d
1x sport 08
1x se 07
1x se 06
Other one is 2003

Lanby

1,106 posts

243 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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If you've not been to an auction before and are local it might be worth going to watch (and keeping your hands in your pockets) to see how it all works.

SCB Driving

46 posts

189 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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p1tse, I would go to an auction just to watch and get an idea of what happens.
I have bought a few cars from BCA, go and weigh it up. It may not be as cheap as you are expecting.
Also find out what charges you will have to pay on top of the hammer price.

va1o

16,113 posts

236 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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p1tse said:
I'll have a look if any 730d.

Any ideas on mot, tax to drive away that day? How long does the day last. Ie if the car in question was last on list just gauging on timing
Roughly 1 minute per car

I strongly advise you go to one just to watch and get a feel for the format before buying...

va1o

16,113 posts

236 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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SCB Driving said:
p1tse, I would go to an auction just to watch and get an idea of what happens.
I have bought a few cars from BCA, go and weigh it up. It may not be as cheap as you are expecting.
Also find out what charges you will have to pay on top of the hammer price.
Wise words. BCA fees these days mean it's no cheaper than buying privately.

Backtobasics

1,182 posts

212 months

Wednesday 22nd June 2011
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I really miss those auction reports, shame they ended.

p1tse

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Thursday 23rd June 2011
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having had a good think, i'm going to pass on this for many reasons
- not been to auction before
- bristol - colchester is some distance,cost of travel and delivery or return back if the auction was won
- require day off
- given the CAP guide, that's near max I would pay, so with london traders more local i think be stiff competition

back to the drawing board to ideally find a 535d sport touring

confused_buyer

7,126 posts

210 months

Thursday 23rd June 2011
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BMW sales tend to have many bidders from BMW dealers so the prices are rarely cheap. On the upside, they are usually valeted ready to go on a forecourt.

As stated above, a slowish auction where the bids are slow to come averages out about 1 minute per car, a good auctioneer on a busy day should average about 45 seconds per car so, if you're looking at, say, Lot 48 reckon on it being about 35 to 45 minutes after the auction start.

The 335d referred to has a book price of £11300 but it is in a nice colour and has leater and nav. It could quite possibly go well over that.

Edited by confused_buyer on Thursday 23 June 11:22

p1tse

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Thursday 23rd June 2011
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Thanks. Decided against it, but maybe for another day though. Some good info, thanks.

I was thinking £11k would be my top anyway, so will give it a miss. As with buyers fee £600, third party warranty £400, tax £260, cosmetic fixes £500, all budget of course that's £13k close to it by the time I budget time, travel comes in more and just not worth it. Still a good car for sure, just not for me

p1tse

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Friday 1st July 2011
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bassanclan said:
2006 - BMW - 3 SERIES -
335D M SPORT - 3.0L - 5DR ESTATE

Cap Clean
£11,300
Cap Average
£10,450


Generally making 93 to 99% of CAP clean
I didn't go in the end but have seen it on Autotrader for £15.2k.

I wander what it went for, possibly above CAP clean price?