RE: Hulme CanAm Spyder Gets Goodwood Debut
Wednesday 22nd June 2011
A new supercar from New Zealand will make its UK debut at the Goodwood Festival of Speed next weekend - the Hulme CanAm Spyder.
Hulme CanAm Spyder Gets Goodwood Debut
New Zealand supercar takes its bow before UK crowds at the FoS next weekend
Readers with elephant-like memories may remember that we last reported on the Hulme, whose name honours New Zealand's one and only F1 world champion driver, back in 2010. Back then we revealed that the Kiwi supercar would come with a price tag of £295k plus local taxes, that 20 examples would be made, and that the LS7 Corvette V8 powering it would offer up 600bhp and 443lb ft of torque.
Those with even greater power of recall may remember that the Hulme CanAm first appeared in concept coupe form at the Festival of Speed in 2006, so it is perhaps fitting that the production version (which will be granted European small series type approval) should make its own UK debut at the FoS.
Although Hulme claims the CanAm Spyder's technology to be F1-inspired (a la Caparo), the orange paint scheme, name and general shape are clearly more than a minor nod to the two CanAm championships that Denny Hulme won at the wheel of a McLaren in 1968 and 1970.
Deliveries of the sub-1000kg, 200mph track monster are expected to begin sometime next year, on the 20th anniversary of Denny Hulme's death.
Discussion
te!!I don't get it.
Someone's clearly spent a lot of time and money designing the car, then making the molds for the panels, getting all the suspension bits made etc etc...
... then they just stick a set of crappy chrome Team Dynamics wheels on it?
it would take a few grand and a day or two of 3d cad work and CNC milling to make some original and genuinely nice-looking wheels but they can't be arsed.
It does look very 340R too.
Someone's clearly spent a lot of time and money designing the car, then making the molds for the panels, getting all the suspension bits made etc etc...
... then they just stick a set of crappy chrome Team Dynamics wheels on it?
it would take a few grand and a day or two of 3d cad work and CNC milling to make some original and genuinely nice-looking wheels but they can't be arsed.
It does look very 340R too.
Its taken a long time to develop because it's a small (but skilled) team of people and it's all privately funded in a country with zero auto industry.
Give them a break, building a production ready car is a big undertaking for privateers!
All the Caparo T1 comments, yes ok it looks like a T1 but here's something you might not be aware of. The Hulme F1 design drawings (the original hardtop) were published about 6 months before the first pictures of a Caparo were ever released to the media.
If anything the first Hulme images inspired the Caparo not the other way around.
Also on what basis are comparisons to Kit cars being made? Its not a kit car, it's custom built by hand yes but definitely not a kit.
What defines a kit car anyway? Would you consider the Ariel Atom a kit car? I woudln't.
Admittedly using the LS7 as a tickled crate motor is somewhat kit-like but there's good reason.
a) 700hp
b) Its the modern equivalent of the Chevy V8 which powered Dennis Hulme and Bruce McLaren's Canam racecars of which this car is honouring.
It might be a crate motor but it's still more expensive than the BMW M5 v8 which was originally going to be used (and an extra 200hp!) It also still has a future in production unlike the BMW engine which was superseded by the V10.
c) Caparo made their own engine. Look back through the archive of media storm around what a disaster that was in the early days. Too much too soon IMO but then again with the resources of Maclaren behind them anything's possible
But I agree with you about the polished finish. I'd like to see them in a matt gunmetal grey or somthing...
Here's a pic pinched off their website ironically displayed next to the prototype T1 :P
The car has come a LONG way since then. Its the old 80/20 rule, 80% of the time is spent on the last 20% of the work. However in this case it's probably more like 90/10.
Going form a static model with out even opening doors or headlights and no glass to what they currently have is impressive in my book. I'm liking whats going on under the rear engine cover and I quite like the stark cabin interior too with the divider between the two seats and the shifter position.
I like the car.
I also think with all the work that's gone into the project by everyone involved they deserve to sell a few.
There's been so many different prices banded around I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the end price is but at the end of the day there's enough wealthy people in the world wanting a slice of exclusivity to pay whatever it takes.
Continue.....
Give them a break, building a production ready car is a big undertaking for privateers!
All the Caparo T1 comments, yes ok it looks like a T1 but here's something you might not be aware of. The Hulme F1 design drawings (the original hardtop) were published about 6 months before the first pictures of a Caparo were ever released to the media.
If anything the first Hulme images inspired the Caparo not the other way around.
Also on what basis are comparisons to Kit cars being made? Its not a kit car, it's custom built by hand yes but definitely not a kit.
What defines a kit car anyway? Would you consider the Ariel Atom a kit car? I woudln't.
Admittedly using the LS7 as a tickled crate motor is somewhat kit-like but there's good reason.
a) 700hp
b) Its the modern equivalent of the Chevy V8 which powered Dennis Hulme and Bruce McLaren's Canam racecars of which this car is honouring.
It might be a crate motor but it's still more expensive than the BMW M5 v8 which was originally going to be used (and an extra 200hp!) It also still has a future in production unlike the BMW engine which was superseded by the V10.
c) Caparo made their own engine. Look back through the archive of media storm around what a disaster that was in the early days. Too much too soon IMO but then again with the resources of Maclaren behind them anything's possible
tommyjj said:
I don't get it.
Someone's clearly spent a lot of time and money designing the car, then making the molds for the panels, getting all the suspension bits made etc etc...
... then they just stick a set of crappy chrome Team Dynamics wheels on it?
it would take a few grand and a day or two of 3d cad work and CNC milling to make some original and genuinely nice-looking wheels but they can't be arsed.
Tommy, look harder mate. They are CNC machined from solid billet, they are 20" rear, 19" front, 13" wide in the rear and 10" wide in the front. They are also splined knock on centres.Someone's clearly spent a lot of time and money designing the car, then making the molds for the panels, getting all the suspension bits made etc etc...
... then they just stick a set of crappy chrome Team Dynamics wheels on it?
it would take a few grand and a day or two of 3d cad work and CNC milling to make some original and genuinely nice-looking wheels but they can't be arsed.
But I agree with you about the polished finish. I'd like to see them in a matt gunmetal grey or somthing...
chevronb37 said:
Wasn't this at Goodwood about 4 years ago?
Hulme the company was but not this car. The last one to be exhibited was the hardtop fullsize model and it was a non-running cosmetic model only.Here's a pic pinched off their website ironically displayed next to the prototype T1 :P
The car has come a LONG way since then. Its the old 80/20 rule, 80% of the time is spent on the last 20% of the work. However in this case it's probably more like 90/10.
Going form a static model with out even opening doors or headlights and no glass to what they currently have is impressive in my book. I'm liking whats going on under the rear engine cover and I quite like the stark cabin interior too with the divider between the two seats and the shifter position.
I like the car.
I also think with all the work that's gone into the project by everyone involved they deserve to sell a few.
There's been so many different prices banded around I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the end price is but at the end of the day there's enough wealthy people in the world wanting a slice of exclusivity to pay whatever it takes.
Continue.....
Edited by doo0T on Wednesday 22 June 23:10
Esprit said:
Is this running the carbon tub they promised early on? Or have they ditched that for the spaceframe that was on the one Jock was running around in?
Hi George Production cars will be carbon tub last I heard but I'm pretty sure the one on display at FoS is still on the steel space frame.... I'm going to FoS for the day on the 30th, I'll get some pics and chuck them up on NZH
Now I really like that. Simply from a design point of view. It has a lovely flow to it's lines, quite elegant in a way. Granted there's only the one picture of it here and not much else on t'web.
In contrast to the Caparo (which I also like) but is quite brutal in it's line and awkward from several angles.
In contrast to the Caparo (which I also like) but is quite brutal in it's line and awkward from several angles.
I agree with doo0T. This is certainly not a kit-car. If anyone can build something like this in their garage from using a just a few tools... I'd be very impressed.
I hope this does well too. Coming from that part of the world where there is definately nothing automotive to help run a project like this, is quite something IMO.
I hope this does well too. Coming from that part of the world where there is definately nothing automotive to help run a project like this, is quite something IMO.
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